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Offline DaveP

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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2002, 11:13:56 PM »
Yeah the touching eulogies can be shoved where the sundoesnt shine.

Im put off by the kind of oprah winfreysque evangelistic verbage
from Collas and now McEwan.
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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2002, 11:19:39 PM »
Jada, jada, blah, blah, you will be rewarded, jada.

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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2002, 11:31:02 PM »
Hiya Dave.

Yeah, whilst I can see your point and agree with it too, I must confess and say that I can see the reason why Bill McEwen does it.

Bill is a marketing man, he has to appeal to everyone, the Amiga Community, the Investors, the potential new customers, etc. (Think about it as external to the Amiga scene point of view)

I try to keep the blurb down when I make announcents for Total Amiga Magazine, World of Amiga Southeast 2002, or whatever else. However, I don`t move in the same high circles as Bill does.

Knock me down with a feather, but at least Bill has worked very hard in trying to tie up deals and keep Amiga afloat. Whether you like the blurb or not, he has kept Amiga from going under. Correct me if I am  wrong but aren`t they now the longest owners of the Amiga name since Commodore and without the money Gateway/Escom had?

Yes, I hate the blurb  too, but if it means he keeps the company going, as he has done so far, who cares?
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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2002, 11:45:39 PM »
Mikey

Sure I understand it but when pitching you have
to understand your audience.

I wasnt nailing him to a cross, just criticising thataspect ofhis
marketing speak.
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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2002, 12:15:49 AM »
WOW! :-o

I like the new amidock and the workbench backgound! :-D
 

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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2002, 12:21:35 AM »
Hello Dave

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I wasnt nailing him to a cross, just criticising thataspect ofhis


Sorry, if I appeared to have over reacted, I was making a general point, not having a go per se.

Speaking of Cross, it reminds me about the world cup lob against David Seaman joke. (too risque for a.org)

;-)


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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2002, 12:30:18 AM »
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Speaking of Cross, it reminds me about the world cup lob against David Seaman joke. (too risque for a.org)


PM me ? flaps at crosses  or summat ?
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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2002, 12:32:59 AM »
LOL I think I know the joke.

Can anyone think of any corporate personality in the
Amiga market who doesnt need lessons in PR?

Ermmmmmmmmm

I cant.

I compiled a list of my 10 worst at PR:

1. Thendic - shoots self in foot so frequently amazed still capable of walking.
2. Amiga Inc - over effusive, promises the earth and delivers a pebble
3. BoXeR project - promised a pebble and didnt deliver that
4. IWIN  - you lose
5. AntiGravity - wow take some uppers dude!
6. Elbox - at least the products exceed the pr !
7. Haage & Partner - sheesh!
8. RS - party off dude
9. DCE - erm so is it or isnt it discontinued?
10. Power Computing - open mouth, insert foot, bite until teeth meet bone.
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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2002, 12:33:44 AM »
Agafaster

I'll message you the joke privately via the Amiga.org message service.

DaveP check your messages - asap - please.
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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2002, 12:38:05 AM »
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Yes, Alan Redhouse, Shoots from the hip, always gives it to you straight.

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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2002, 12:42:06 AM »
@MikeyC

Alan ????

You mean that Alan that had a nearly finished A1(Escena) for
18 months ? That promised the dev-boards for April ?
Everybody who asked about it's (obvious) origin is a troll/pirate ?

The one who "borrowed" Apples CPU-socket ?
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2002, 12:42:34 AM »
I think that disqualifies him. ;-)

Seriously though it is claimed that he misled Amiga users
last year over A1-1200 readiness.

But I agree when he does communicate I am always impressed
by his straight talk.
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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2002, 12:42:45 AM »
Thats definitely a cracker - got a good reaction from m'colleagues here at work.

Alan Redhouse - Phlegmatic Yorkshireman a la captain cook - or dare I say Harry Enfield's yorkshireman "I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" ;-)

Dont forget, Kronos, he is also a businessman. there were probably good reasons for those things - if a yorkshireman doesnt have to spend any money he wont - tighter than scotsmen (according the scotsman who was head of Physics in Leeds when I was there... :-D )
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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2002, 01:28:56 AM »
It is good to have an update :-)

I am hoping the leagal action will be settle. I just worry about the cost of such things.  That money could be use for other things.  Oh well, they need to take care it and I hope it turn out okay.

As far as AmiDock?  Well, I don't use it now, so I am not sure how much better the new one will be.  I like using THE and I am wondering if that will make it to OS 4?

It is getting harder to wait now, as I hear more of OS 4 getting done.
 

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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2002, 01:31:59 AM »
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if a yorkshireman doesnt have to spend any money he wont - tighter than scotsmen


We prefer "canny"  :-D
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Re: Amiga September Executive Update
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 06, 2002, 02:14:09 AM »
Desler wrote:

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blah blah dream blah amazing blah moving forwards blah we embark on this mission together, nothing will tear us apart.


A bit overkill. Its word like this that makes me fell... well. fundamentalistic


It makes me feel... queasy. :-รพ It's actually quite disgusting. But, as others already have said, it's still smart and necessary marketing, the company realises that just using the "Amiga" trademark for the company name and for its own product isn't enough, the company needs to grasp every marketing opportunity, even with sleazy methods like this, to create some kind of "kinship" with those who have made and kept the trademark valuable, i.e. the old Amiga user and developer communities, else the brand will lose whatever commercial value it has left.
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