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Offline asian1

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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2002, 09:57:59 AM »
>Piracy problem - machine certification.

Hi
I think it is better to use APPLE approach, but with hardware outsourcing.

1. User can run AMIGA OS on emulator / other hardware, but there is no support for them. To track which customer had bought the AMIGA OS , perhaps Amiga Inc can use serial number, password and online registration.

2. Although 3rd party can sell machine that can run AMIGA OS, they cann't advertise this feature or mention AMIGA OS / applications on their brochure / manual. They cann't sell their machine bundled with AMIGA OS.

3. On each box of AMIGA OS, they should mention list of compatible / certified machine, with a warning to customer that using AMIGA OS with uncertified machine is illegal.

4. Post announcement / advertisement about the name of illegal vendors and their machines.

AMIGA Inc should have a good legal team / lawyers to protect their IP / against pirates.

There is no need to modify ROM, install new ROM etc, as long as the above rules are used.
 

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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2002, 10:16:54 AM »
Oh, for heavens sake grow up kids!

This won't happen, not ever hopefully.

I have not signed, and I will not. This is why:

The current licensing scheme'll insure that AOS4 won't be pirated as every piece of hardware capable of running AOS4 will be sold with a copy of it.

If it becomes possible to buy a separate copy of AOS4, some idiot'll surely start churning out piratecopies of it. This'll result in a salesdrop of AOS4 and Amiga Inc. will propably soon go out of buisness because of it.

I ask you now, is this what you want to happen?
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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2002, 10:20:38 AM »
I'm certainly not signing that rubbish! My company stands behind Amiga 100%.
 

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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2002, 11:32:18 AM »
yeah, but what would be do in the mean time. Twiddling our thumbs is kinda boring.
 

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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2002, 11:34:04 AM »
Wasn't the Zico spec just for DE?
 

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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2002, 11:36:00 AM »
I ain't signing either.

A nice short statement that is not full of crap talk ;-)
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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2002, 12:03:47 PM »
POP? CHRP?

Nah...
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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2002, 12:42:53 PM »
As I said somewhere else... what if some companies begin to produce more powerful and cheaper PPC motherboards than AmigaOne-Pegasos for Linux?
Would you expect them to pay money to Amiga Inc or modify their hardware for a small market like ours that they don't even care?

You all have let this AmigaOS-MorphOS war to influence your decision about this petition.
Can we have the luxury of the freedom of choice?

Free Amiga! :-)
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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2002, 01:11:19 PM »
:hammer: I'm not signing on either.  I think they've been doing very well, and their plans have been very thoughtful. :idea:

Also, remember,  some things have to remain under wraps at various stages of the business plan, so there cannot be an argument until you know absolutely everthing. :-P

Thumbs up, AMIGA!
 

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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2002, 01:22:19 PM »
I think people need to get used to change.

Change is good, many times.
And this is one of those times.

Bill McEwin is not a stupid buisness man.
He knows what he is doing.
One can tell that he has studied his plans well.

The only people that are complaining are the ones who are stuck in yesterday...
Forever struggling in their own minds to make sense of something that makes perfect sense.

And at this, they stumble.

Way to go Amiga Inc.

and keep up the good work :-o
 

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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2002, 01:36:26 PM »
Guess what I'm not signing !!

Wanna know why ?

If AInc wants to dig their own grave and give the competition
an advantage, then for heavens sake let them do it.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2002, 02:47:10 PM »
It's all rather academic, anyway - he's only got 28 signatures so far. We must have at least 56 Amiga fans left, haven't we? In which case, it's not a majority.

tony
 

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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2002, 03:17:15 PM »
I think Seehund should be applauded for this because its a constructive way of getting opinion
across. The petition is articulate and is a good way of allowing people to say what they thing /on the petition/ and not waste any more time saying it to each other.

I am not signing it because I think the branding scheme is the right thing and AmigaOS should not yet be a run anywhere OS like Linux ( not strong enough ).

Eventually Amiga Inc will HAVE to losen the reigns if AmigaOS becomes a MacOS like success.

Dave.
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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2002, 03:21:38 PM »
Zico WAS AmigaDE compliance no more no less. I got caught out with that one too.

As we have found out, even with Linux you cant just up and run the OS on any hardware even if the CPU is the same architecture so some level of spec would be needed.
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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2002, 03:26:26 PM »
Well what will reduce the credibility of the petition is some of the language on it. :-(

As usual Cheesegrate loses it. Is there any way of editing out those comments? It would make Amiga Inc take one look at it and say so we lose 15 trolls and 15 sensible people. Hmmmm......

Rather than 31 sensible people.
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Re: Petition: AmigaOS distribution policies and PPC hardware
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 26, 2002, 05:15:07 PM »
No way am I signing that. I don't feel strongly either way
about their licensing policy, as it is way outside my field
of expertise. What I do know, however, is that I'd look a
bit like an imbecile if my name was associated with those
comments. The top 5 comments I don't want listed near my
name:
1."sue bplan and die amino clowns" -5, troll
2."DIE AMIGA!!! MORPHOS 0Wnz j00000" -5, deranged or not serious
3."Yes, It's time for competitive mind, not closed ONE!" -2, confusing
4."To be rude; what's with the Microsoft tactics, huh?" -2, clearly doesn't know much about MS tactics, yet he talks about it
5."BTW soldered CPU SuXX big time" -1, seems to have misunderstood what the petition is about an who it is targetted at

Kay