Rats leaving a sinking ship, or something else?

[ritty]

@Farquad .... I like the way you think ... from now on I'll just refer those evil posts at me to you,..... you explain very well

 ritty :-D

[TheMagicM]

Blitter:  LOL.  As long as you dont charge interest we'll be a-ok!   :-D

[Doobrey]

Argo wrote:
The only thing I can think of is that, there is no DE or at least not in useable form.

 I was ready Bill McEwans depostion the other night, and one bit jumped out at me..( This is in regards to DE and Intent)
" At one time we had 16 chip sets that we support. I believe we are down to ten now. It`s going to get whittled down again"

 I know that this is down to TAO and not Amiga Inc, but how can they have "Amiga Anywhere" when the range of supported hardware is getting smaller by the minute?

[CodeSmith]

Actually, that's not such a huge deal.  The cell-phone and handheld markets are starting to standardize on very few chips.  This makes sense because it's easier to obtain good tools, and you can reasonably expect newly-hired engineers to know the chip your particular widget is using.

As long as Intent supports XScale (for high end Palms and PocketPCs) and Dragonball (for low end cellphones), they're probably OK.  If they drop support for those, then they might as well pack up and go home...

[huronking]

the documents are listed under the amigabk
directory.. Amiga BK? That sounds like
bankruptcy, not copyright lawsuits against genesi.

Did I miss something here? (I probably did, so dont flame me)

[meerschaum]

FarQuad you summed it up very well before ( cant seem to find where it was you posted this) something like.

'Amiga Inc's continued existance, like a radiated ####roach is Bill McEwans way of saying screw you to the amiga community' (not an exact quote, but a close enough paraphrase I think)

I think thats totally correct, I mean Amiga GAINS from selling DE right?, why are they so against porting it to Pegasos? IIRC bbrv even said that Thendic/Genesi where doing the porting and it wouldnt even cost AI any money. It looks to me to be more of a personal vendetta then anything else. All business logic says they should do it apperantly.

[bhoggett]

@meerschaum

I think thats totally correct, I mean Amiga GAINS from selling DE right?, why are they so against porting it to Pegasos? IIRC bbrv even said that Thendic/Genesi where doing the porting and it wouldnt even cost AI any money. It looks to me to be more of a personal vendetta then anything else. All business logic says they should do it apperantly.

Well, we don't have all the details. Business logic based on what we are aware of suggests they would benefit from letting Genesi port it, but it is entirely possible that they can't do it and stay legal. Remember, letting Genesi port it involves handing them the ENTIRE source code, including that which is under TAO's copyright. Are they really entitled to do this without TAO having any say in it?

It could be that Amiga find themselves in a situation where they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Not that I sympathise, since it's a situation of their own making.

[asian1]

>Doobrey: Down from 16 to 10 chip sets.
Hello
What/where is the source of this statement?
AFAIK it is IMPOSSIBLE to scale down because
the VP2 code is NOT changed with the new release
of INTENT2. Therefore CPU supported by
INTENT1 will be supported by INTENT2.

The only CPU dropped on transition from VP1
(old TAOS) to INTENT is TRANSPUTER (T4, T8, T9),
because ST Micro had discontinued the products.
Where is the latest official statement from
Mr Bill McEwen about the chipset/CPU?

[meerschaum]

bhogget I think you make some good points, but if this is the case... whats to lose from telling us that? I mean what do they lose if they come out and say these 'details' ?... given their track record I cant trust them.

[bhoggett]

@meerschaum

whats to lose from telling us that?

Face.

It would be the equivalent of saying "we're a bunch of morons and we signed contracts that had clauses we could never honour".

As long as they think they might not lose the case, they will think they don't have to make any admissions which would damage them further.  Bear in mind that if they lose the case, and cannot comply with sanctions because they would be breaching copyright, then they will leave themselves open to further punishment.

Like I said, they could well be in a no win situation, no matter what they do.

[Doobrey]

asian1 wrote:
>Doobrey: Down from 16 to 10 chip sets.
Hello
What/where is the source of this statement?

From a scanned document here at Rich Woods 'Merlancia' site.

[meerschaum]

bhogget you make some very good points, but to me I dont even care... to me it looks like its just more 'tight lip, sinking ship' from Amiga.inc... we've seen this for years.

[unclewilli-amigalover]

lawers withdraw at amigas' request? sounds like their getting more qualified lawers that can understand this type of case...? may be well thought out.

[AmiGR]

No, Amiga's lawyers (or may I say, the whole law firm) applied to withdrew from the case, leaving
Amiga Inc undefended till they find another lawyer.
It's most probably cause AInc is out of money, and
I seriously doubt that anyone will take that case
due to that fact. 100$ (according to McEwen himself)
are not enough to hire a lawyer.

[unclewilli-amigalover]

thought that deal with "MS" had the money comming  in ,some months back. looks like the curse is on amiga again, guess Bill McEwen should have cut back on them fancy long limos and kept driving the old truck untill amiga inc., was kicking..? :-o

[unclewilli-amigalover]

what does one say about all this if its true but,(song) "thanks for the memories"