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Ramlib error while booting up
« on: May 21, 2009, 06:32:14 PM »
Things are progressing after my A3000 crapped out.

Now that everythings in the new A3000, and its without a 3640 accelerator, I'm now having a Ramlib error during boot up, which sucks.

Another thread said that Ramlib errors were caused by having the 68040.library in LIBS, since I'm now running with the stock 68030, but after I removed the 68040.library, I'm still getting Ramlib errors. Anything else I have to do?

On the other hand, games loaded from floppies work!
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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2009, 06:42:56 PM »
Just comment everything out in s:startup-sequence & s:user-startup that might make ramlib crash, by putting a ";" (without the "") infront of the programs. After this is done and you run startup-sequence 'light', if it doesn't crash anymore you can enable line by line again.

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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2009, 08:22:45 PM »
Errr. That's a lot of "work", but, I suppose I'll have to do it.

On the other hand, what you think about this?

I've been running OS3.9 so far. Now that I'm back to a 68030 (until I can get another accelerator), should I re-install a plain 3.1 WB? Its got two, 2 gig HD's in it that are each divided into two partitions, so I shouldn't have trouble, or will I?

Its too bad those new 060 GVP accelerators weren't slightly more affordable. :)
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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2009, 08:32:16 PM »
Have you got 3.1 ROMs in your new A3000?
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10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 09:33:59 PM »
My a3000 does/did the same. Drove me nuts....until I cleaned the pins and connector

on the power supply cable.  You must remove the shelf and power supply to get at them

Use a good contact cleaner and a very small something to get between the pins.

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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 12:02:42 AM »
Quote from: amiganaut;455534
My a3000 does/did the same. Drove me nuts....until I cleaned the pins and connector

on the power supply cable.  You must remove the shelf and power supply to get at them

Use a good contact cleaner and a very small something to get between the pins.

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Yes Moto, I transfered the 3.1 Roms, the entire drive tray, and all the Zip Ram into this spare 3000.

What do dirty pins on the power supply have to do with Ramlib errors??
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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2009, 01:05:11 AM »
Dirty connectors, especially ones to the psu and ram can cause all manner of interesting and difficult to otherwise pin down issues. Likewise, ropey PSU's can do the same.
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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 03:45:40 AM »
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Dirty connectors, especially ones to the psu and ram can cause all manner of interesting and difficult to otherwise pin down issues. Likewise, ropey PSU's can do the same.


OK. Sounds strange, but, I'll do it.
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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2009, 12:31:07 PM »
My A3000 gave me a ramlib error (still does occassionally) and I had to disable Amidock in WBSTARTUP.

Then, I found if I played with the maxtransfer in the hard drive settings it would reduce the occurence of RAMLIB errors and allow Amidock to work without causing RAMLIB errors.  It was bizarre, and I don't really understand the cause.
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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2009, 01:45:17 PM »
Quote from: Amiduffer;455507
Things are progressing after my A3000 crapped out.

Now that everythings in the new A3000, and its without a 3640 accelerator, I'm now having a Ramlib error during boot up, which sucks.

Another thread said that Ramlib errors were caused by having the 68040.library in LIBS, since I'm now running with the stock 68030, but after I removed the 68040.library, I'm still getting Ramlib errors. Anything else I have to do?

On the other hand, games loaded from floppies work!


Hve you set the CLOCK jumpers to INTERNAL when you removed the 3640? (IIRC the 3640 uses EXT clock)

and ... does your plain A3000 have the FPU chip installed? maybe theres something in WBStartup that requires it ..... just guessing
 

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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 02:49:04 PM »
Quote from: Amiduffer;455561
OK. Sounds strange, but, I'll do it.


It's even more strange when you take a supposedly unstable system, give it a good clean and it cease to be unstable.

Even if it doesn't work for this particular issue, it is something that should be done with a computer every once in a while anyway.

Hope it does work out for you however :)
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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2009, 11:24:37 PM »
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My A3000 gave me a ramlib error (still does occassionally) and I had to disable Amidock in WBSTARTUP.

Then, I found if I played with the maxtransfer in the hard drive settings it would reduce the occurence of RAMLIB errors and allow Amidock to work without causing RAMLIB errors.  It was bizarre, and I don't really understand the cause.

I arranged some of the jumpers, and its a little more stable. Or it might be because of the cleaning of the pins on the PSU connector. I still randomly get a RAMLIB error though. Taking out Amidock might be a good idea. That is the cause of crashes at boot up too. So strange. I never used to get RAMLIB errors before this.

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Have you set the CLOCK jumpers to INTERNAL when you removed the 3640? (IIRC the 3640 uses EXT clock) and ... does your plain A3000 have the FPU chip installed?

Yes, I set that pin. Not sure about the FPU. I'll have to use the viewer to see what I have now that the 3640 is out.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2009, 11:28:02 PM by Amiduffer »
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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2009, 11:56:32 PM »
Ramlib errors can also be the result of ramlib having a too small stacksize.
The original ramlib stacksize is 2k. MCPramlibpatch increases the ramlib stack to 8k.
There also is a blizkick module that fixes it.
You might want to try one of these patches to see if it fixes your problem.
 

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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2009, 02:05:04 AM »
@MozzerFan

I believe the stack size problem is fixed with newest SetPatch...

SetPatch (V44.38) has already been installed.  Patch list:
        68060 Support Code Loaded
        Enabled Advanced Graphics Modes
        ramlib signal usage
        stack size check for CON:, RAW:, RAM:, PAR:, PRT:, SER:
        graphics/WritePixelLine8()
        graphics/WriteChunkyPixel()
        Enabled data cache

@Amiduffer

I would recommend staying with AmigaOS3.9 especially if you have a RTG gfx board. If you don't have a RTG board, I would recommend you get one. It makes a huge difference even on a 68030.
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Re: Ramlib error while booting up
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2009, 03:38:54 AM »
@Matthey

Nope, you can check it with scout.
Goto tasks and doubleclick on ramlib.
The stacksize is still 2k without mcpramlibpatch (or a similiar patch).
« Last Edit: May 26, 2009, 03:56:45 AM by MozzerFan »