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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2009, 01:30:47 AM »
true, if its not direct purchase from them.  
Try using high density disks, tape up the other hole, and format using amiga os.  you'll find it should work better.
private message send also.  send me back the model or look at the bottom pcb to see whats on it.  that may help me give you more hints.  (i have several drives for sale that have been converted and i can use reliably).
about scsi-3 10 gb drive, thats why you need rom 7.0 :-)
no problem with buddha, just personally, i'd rather get graphics card, accel board. :-D
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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2009, 01:35:19 AM »
The version 7 ROM fixes the following bugs in the 6.6 ROM
- >1GB HD support
- DMA reselection bug fixed
- disconnect/reconnect performance improved a lot
- Sync messages are handled
- Error handling improved
- Sync problems with Seagate/Syquest fixed
- Removable media recognition fixed
- Slow boot jumper now does a 15 second wait plus 300ms scan
http://bboah.amiga-resistance.info/cgi-bin/showhardware_en.cgi?HARDID=1161
try rom first.  the other option would be to get the newer revision scsi chip mentioned here:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38747
currently sold out, but if there's enough interest i may stock up on more inventory.
select the other 2091 to "not bootable".
JP2: Autoboot Enable
AUTO: Set to enable autobooting from the A2091.
DIS: Set to disable autobooting from the A2091.
the hangups could be due to larger hard disk, not properly recognized and not properly prepped (see other suggestions above also).
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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2009, 01:41:55 AM »
i think only one of the 2091 drives (one that you use for booting) should be autoboot on.  the other should be disabled.  (its the jumper below the 4 rows of ram).
http://bboah.amiga-resistance.info/cgi-bin/showhardware_en.cgi?HARDID=973
only 8mb can be autoconfiged, unless you change the jumper.  i assume you're under 8mb ram still?  you should consider buying  ram for 2058 board (i can check things up on that) if you don't plan on getting accelerator.
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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2009, 01:43:34 AM »
if you use disks on one drive, i found they work just as well as on 1011 drive.  I use high density disks (hole taped up) only on the pc converted drive and it works great.:-D
i don't use these disks on 1011 though. (no mixing disks between two drives).
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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2009, 09:36:49 AM »
Interesting that you say not to mix disks between the drives. I'll reformat my disks using my A1200, copy across fresh ADF's and try reinstall WB3.1. We'll see if that solves my read / write errors.
 

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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2009, 11:22:33 AM »
Zorro socket 1, seems bodgy. The A2058 is not recognised in it, but is recognised in socket 2. Although the RAM isn't shown in either socket, strange...

Both jumpers are on.

After some further fiddling with the A2058, there was oxydation on the jumpers and fully inserting the card causes problems, don't stick it all the way in!

When the machine starts up, I get a red Diagnositc screen with the following:

Board  Manufacturer  Product  Status
  1         514         10      Defective

From ShowConfig:
CBM A2052/58/10.RAM I 590/2091.RAM : Prod=514/10($202/$A) (@$200000 2meg Mem)

WorkBench does not report the RAM, although I can now see the card in ShowConfig, no closer to being able to use it though!
 

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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2009, 04:57:39 PM »
here's another tip for you.
what software do you use when writing adf? [important question]  write the adf using only the pc converted drive and do not use those disks on the 1011 drive.  use only high density ones, wiht hole patched up.  if you encounter bad disk, simply format using Amiga OS format command, and write the adf again.  I stored my disks for several months and all of them can be read fine. (maybe my luck?)  the pc drive and 1011 drive have different mechanisms.
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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2009, 05:16:57 PM »
get Sysinfo on aminet.
to search for it use http://aminet.net/.
email us if you want an adf image.  Use this tool diagnose how much RAM you have, expansion boards etc.
-------- cleaning the card and/or socket --------
clean the card 2058 and the socket 1 with QD Electronic Cleaner or similar.  This is "precision cleaning solvent that cleans and protects sensitive electronic components and contacts.  Instantly penetrates hard-to-reach areas to safely dissolve dirt, dust, grease, flux and other contaminants on contact"  Use swabs or qtips to delicately remove stubborn soil.  i'd recommend usng this before spraying and after.  it contains methanol, hexane, isohexane, petrolum distillate, and carbon dioxide.  allow time to dry your a2000.
http://www.autobarn.net/elcl45wtoz.html
or buy a head/tape cleaner from radio shack (also in spray can).
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ram board - j1 & j2 should be ON as you confirmed, you should have also 2 mb surface mounted chips.  also, be sure the card is clean, not covered in dirt/dust etc.  what revision is your amiga 2000 (6.x is desirable)
Remove the ramboard, do you still get the red screen message ?  if not then the ramboard is defective or needs good cleaning (see above).

Last ensure you remove the battery on yoru A2000, and if its been removed, examine the battery area for "past time" leaks.
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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2009, 09:21:28 PM »
Is someone here selling defective floppy drives converted from PCs? (They're defective if they can't interchange disks with other Amigas.)
A4000/25MHz/64MB/20GB/RetinaBLTZ3/FastlaneZ3/CatweaselMKIII/Ariadne/A2301
A3000/40MHz/32MB/6GB/Merlin/Buddha/X-Surf/FrameMachineII+Prism24
Draco60/50MHz/128MB/15GB/Altais/DracoMotion/DV/IOblix+net
 

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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2009, 09:42:26 PM »
I use ADFBlizter on an A1200 to write out the ADF images.

After reading your ealier post, I have reformatted the erroring disks again using the A1200. I selected a full format, FFS and a Trashcan.

After writting out the new ADF's the disks seem to be behaving themselves; and I'll refrain from switch them between the PC converted AmigaKit drive and the 1011.
 

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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2009, 04:29:35 AM »
@Iggy_Drougge

Not us.  Anyway re-read the postings.   :-P
We both discovered some disks usage issues, using the same disk in another drive, caused errors (eg disk created in pc converted drive to 1011 or FB354 drive).  And the disk drives come from different sources.
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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2009, 04:34:47 AM »
Transadf is another tool.  it allows verifying anything written. (good for checking disk tracks.)  
Thats exactly my findings as well - once the disks are formatted and done with adf tool they behave themselves on my end as well.  I also found, that data was retained on disks only by using adf tool.  copying files to disk, i found some data loss with some disks.  no idea why.  perils of pc converted drives?
Glad to see your results confirmed with my findings.
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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2009, 09:23:12 AM »
OK, I'll pick up some solvent one day after work, might need to wait until the weekend though.

I'll DL SysInfo and see how that goes; but I bet it will be no better until the socket and board is cleaned up.

The battery has previously been removed, and it had started to leak; looks like it was caught early though, as there isn't much damage to either side of the PCB.
 

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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2009, 09:30:49 AM »
This is the contac tcleaner most readily available; and it's sold near work

http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/499a81f808e4deb8273fc0a87e01071f/Product/View/N1072

Will it do?

The A2000 is a Rev6.2
 

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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2009, 09:42:24 PM »
SysInfo recognises the presence of the A2058, even reports the right amount of RAM. Although WorkBench still doesn't see the RAM.

BUT when I press the "Memory" button,, SysInfo only reports the basic 1Meg. The RAM must somehow be being disabled due to the red diagnostic screen on startup.

TransADF lite and efficient, ADFBLitzer offered a GUI though...less typing, might stick with the ADFBlitzer.
 

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Re: A2000 Rebuild Problems.
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 17, 2009, 10:56:03 PM »
That cleaner should be ok also.
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