My mute Miggy

[KatManDEW]

Can I play any kind of misuc files on my A2000 with no sound card? CD Audio, MP3's, or wav files?

I've tried a couple apps from Aminet and they appear to need a sound card.

[SamuraiCrow]

Yes.  Under AmigaOS 3.9, you can set the AHI preferences to use the Paula Audio mixer.  It takes a bit of processor time but will play back up to 14-bit stereo sound using the Paula chip on the motherboard.

[marcfrick2112]

KatManDEW:

First things first, your GVP '040 probably isn't fast enough for MP3's. My WarpEngine '040/40 can only play one or two MP3's (Low Bitrate, BTW) Even the '060 can't handle all MP3's (high bitrate, or VBR)
I assume you have the audio cable connected on the CD-ROM? I am not too familiar with the 2000, not sure if it has a connection for the CD's audio output, or not... If not, you'll need some sort of mixer, etc. OR, Asim CDFS which can play audio through the Amiga's built-in audio.

  I have a suspicion that some of the apps. you tried don't need a sound card per se , but may need AHI installed. (Think of an RTG system for audio) For .wav's , Play16 does nicely (Aminet)
Maybe start off with something simple, DL a MOD player and some MODS... (You still may need AHI, though)

[amiga_3k]

I managed to play MP3s on my 25 MHz 040 Amiga 3000, with no sound-card. It was a bit of a hassle back then. First of all, the bitrate should certainly not exceed 128kbps. Secondly, a lot of FAST RAM was required. Thirdly, the use of a fancy player like AmiAMP (or how was it called, that WinAMP clone for the Amiga?) was not done (nor were you able to use any other program). I must say that the A3000 had a PicassoIV at that stage.

The process was something like this:
- close all programs.
- start a SHELL.
- find the MP3 to listen at.
- copy it to the RAMDISK:
- then play it via a commandline MP3 player (can't remember the program, I do remember it took loads of toggles to customize playback).

To speed things up, I once wrote a little ACE-BASIC tool that created scripts to handle the tasks of copying, setting the toggles and play the music. Each song got its own script.

[pyrre]

I have successfully played 14bit VBR mp3 files on my 25mhz 040 PPC A1200 with 64MB ram. without using the ppc...
it had a horribly low output volume. but it worked, at quite nice quality for a 8bit sound card made in 1992, never intended to play mp3 files... :-D

[marcfrick2112]

Amiga_3k and pyrre: Cool! If any of you could give details on how to play mp3's on an '040 Amiga, please let me know... I'd love to get my 4000 / warpengine playing more than just 1 mp3 ... but most of my mp3's are higher than 128 kbps..  :cry:

[DoogUK]

My 1240@40 plays 128kpbs mp3's flawlessly, I'm using songplayer.

[Daedalus]

I've found SongPlayer to be the least demanding of all the players available, though you're still pushing it on an 040. I think it has a direct-to-paula option so that you don't need AHI (but I could be wrong). Newer versions of SongPlayer though need more power seeing as it was rewritten in C, and hence less optimised. I think 1.59 was the version I used, but that's just from memory.

[TNovosel]

The BEST mp3 player for classic amigas is Prayer2.

http://aminet.net/search?query=prayer2

I can play mp3 files on my A1200 030/50MHz with Prayer2 (1/4 freq, mono).
With A1200 040/50Hz I can play most(all?) mp3 files with 22050 freq (1/2,mono.)

Converting mp3 to 8svx(iff) or even mp2 is best solution amigas with low-power CPU-s.

[KatManDEW]

I guess I never really thought about how horribly slow even our accelerated Amigas are...

I tried SoundPlayer, but it didn't work at all. The documentation mentions an installer, but there is no installer with the two versions that I downloaded.

The two versions I downloaded are;
http://aminet.net/mus/play/SongPlayer-mor.lha
http://aminet.net/mus/play/SongPlayer.lha

I haven't figured out how to use Prayer2 yet, so I don't know it it's going to work for me.

Thanks for all the info!

[DoogUK]

The version i use comes pre-installed on Bloodwych's excellent ClassicWB ADV pack.

[Munchkin]

I've always used mpega.library and either the console mpega or a gui-version of it. That's worked very well on my 040/40.

I think amplifier works decently well too, as long as I don't do anything else at the same time.

[mike-]

@marcfrick2112

What accelerator was this? I wasn't been able to do VBR on the 060, but i tested a 320kbit worked flawlessly with libmad_mpega and amiamp.

[marcfrick2112]

mike- , well my '060 (s) are both P5, a 1260 / 50MHz on my 1200T and a Cyberstorm Mk3 on my 4000T. And actually, I can't play VBR MP3's on my '060's either, but I can also play 320kps MP3's.

KatManDEW: sorry to hijaak your thread  :-D  And, did you try to add an assign for SongPlayer to your user-startup? For some odd reason, that's the only way I could get it to work...
(e.g. my assign looks like this:
ASSIGN SongPlayer: Creative:Sound/SongPlayer/

[mike-]

I thought perhaps a different decoder might handle vbr but i haven't bothered anymore, p5 here also btw. Which have you tried?