help needed, just set up amiga 1200

[leytond]

i do not see the point in emulators, this is why i got the real amiga, but he said that i have to install an emulator so i can install on my amiga, how dose that work, install on my pc so i can install on my amiga, not possible is it,
i dont know
what has installing an emulater got to do with installing on my amiga. AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

[Munchkin]

I don't see what he means either. If you have internet and a cd drive working on your 1200 it's a lot easier to install and configure everything directly on your 1200.

I guess what he means is to take the harddrive, connect it to your PC, run uae and boot from that HD into workbench and do all the installations and after that move the harddrive back to your 1200.

But to me thats like going over the river to get water and then back if you have the 1200 ready for internet access and a working cd.

[Lorraine]

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[leytond]

my amiga is not internet ready yet but i do have the cd working after neraly 2 weaks, well just over a weak, it took me that long just to set up a cd rom , {bleep} i aint ready for all this yet, take it steady,
LOL, one thing ata time , im a pc freak, i like computers to do things for me not the other way around , this is what i cant get into my head, why have a computer  that you have to tell it what to do in a shell box, and if ya dont it wont do anything, /
mmmmmm, microsoft have got it in the bag realy dont they, you install windows and everything is done it even knows how to unpack things . lol.

[leytond]

so to install 0s3.9 its easyer to use a pc, see what i mean about pcs, they have the market tied up.
DAM i thought this would be easy to set up a compter that is older than my kids,
PMSL

[taunusand]

leytond wrote:
my amiga is not internet ready yet but i do have the cd working after neraly 2 weaks, well just over a weak, it took me that long just to set up a cd rom , {bleep} i aint ready for all this yet, take it steady,
LOL, one thing ata time , im a pc freak, i like computers to do things for me not the other way around , this is what i cant get into my head, why have a computer  that you have to tell it what to do in a shell box, and if ya dont it wont do anything, /
mmmmmm, microsoft have got it in the bag realy dont they, you install windows and everything is done it even knows how to unpack things . lol.

This is EXECTLY what I don't like about Windoze, it does a lot of things that I don't know about ;-)
Amiga, does EXACTLY what I expect and want it to :-)
Yes, I have been in the same boat as you are now, I started to mess around with Amiga in 2006, I did have Amiga when I was a kid though.
When you get the hang of it, I'm sure you'll really like Amiga :-)

BTW, I think it's easiest to setup OS3.9 (or anything else!) on a real Amiga system. Anything "UAE" really confuses me :lol:

[Munchkin]

Like I said before. You're not making a fair comparison.

You should compare what you have now with Windows 3.1 because that's what was avaliable on the PC back then. Sit down and work with that and you will feel exactly the same like you do now.

But, it's also two completely different systems and they are designed to work in different ways so even an up to date amiga will feel different to work with.

Honestly, it would be more fair to compare with linux in the way that it works. In linux you still need to do quite a few things in a shell to make things work. It's just a difference in design and depending on what you're more used to you'll feel more comfortable using.

I still think windows is extremely badly designed basically since it more or less have all system files thrown into one directory. To me the catalog structure that Amiga OS has feels more logical and easier to grasp. But that's my personal opinion.

My point is, if you just give yourself time and experiment enough you will learn how it works, how it's built and as you do you'll feel that you are in control and know what you're doing.

And the fact is, a computer never does anything unless it's been told to do it no matter what system you have.

[leytond]

i dont think its a case of doing things that ya dont know about, i think its because there are that many people with pcs now that they have to cater for every one and they have to give an operating system that is capable of doing everything that it is expected to do, like my windows vista machine , i would be gutted if i paid all that money for it and it couldnt extract an archive that i downloaded or it couldnt read a file because i hadnt installed a libary for,
i know i can buy os3.9 and that might do some things better than it dose now, but can i say it will be better than windows, mmmm, i dowt it , but i will try it to see,

[Lorraine]

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[leytond]

so if i buy os 3.9 it wont come with a boot flopy.
so how do i get it to boot from cd to install it.

[Munchkin]

It's been a while since I installed 3.9 but I'm pretty sure you don't need to boot from the CD to install.

All you need to do is get the CD-rom working in your current 3.1 installation, put the 3.9 CD in and start the installation from there. You have an option to create an emergency disc during the installation.

[leytond]

so i take it it is a good idia to creat this disk then.

[motorollin]

OS3.9 won't be installed properly unless you create the emergency boot disk, boot from it, and install from there.

The title "Emergency Disk" is misleading. It should be called "Installation Boot Disk".

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moto

[Munchkin]

Yes, it is a good idea. If you do you can easily install everything again if the harddrive fails or you replace it without having to install 3.1 first.

[leytond]

oooohhhh, why cant this be straight forward, LOL,
right i would like to thank all of you for the help you have given to me, and your patiance,
its just a shame that the amiga hasnt kept up to date with software , if they had a lot more people might have stayd with it, but i will battle on and see what i can get out of this old thing.
many thanks to you all.

[r0jaws]

After reading your posts I think you might find Emulation more satisfying.
Running WINUAE and installing OS 3.9 to that will be a lot easier.
Then you could sell all your amiga hardware and make someone else very happy indeed.

As an aside, the Amiga's OS was considerably easier to use than Windows/ DOS in its day.
You do realise that this is a considerably older piece of kit and all this convenience touted by Windows is as the result of an extra 15 years of development (not all of it theirs BTW)?