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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2008, 04:32:48 PM »
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Noone is paying anyone not to relase new amiga HW or software.

What would be the point, thats the funniest thing ive heard this week



There are companies that buy others companies for billions dollars and forget it in the bottom of a store only for kill the competition. i.e Palm and BeOS
So it´s not unreasonable to think that microsoft has some sort of agreement in that respect
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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2008, 04:51:55 PM »
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 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Noone is paying anyone not to relase new amiga HW or software.

What would be the point, thats the funniest thing ive heard this week



There are companies that buy others companies for billions dollars and forget it in the bottom of a store only for kill the competition. i.e Palm and BeOS
So it´s not unreasonable to think that microsoft has some sort of agreement in that respect


Not even slightly. After Windows95 the Amiga totally dissappeared from MicroSoft's radar... M$ had nothing to do with the death of the Amiga at all!

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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2008, 05:00:00 PM »
I don't think Microsoft has been bothered with the Amiga since Windows 3.1 - they had the business and office markets and they knew it.

When that was all going down I had to reluctantly switch to Windows to continue taking work home with me.
Even then the only thing I ever heard that was a thorn in Microsoft's side was that Doom was installed on more PC's than Windows 95 - and actively pushed for Doom to run on it.

In 2000 I heard of them doing a push to compete with Linux on the server front... but I don't think the Amiga has bothered them for a very long time - and if you try and see it objectively from their side, there's no need for them to be.

Apple has once again risen as prime competition for them, and the Amiga is a looooooong way from that, even with the recent releases of hardware/software.

When it comes to companies buying competing products - Avid does this fairly aggressively - buying up companies for the sole purpose of discontinuing competing products (Newsstar and SoftImage spring to mind) - but again I can't see Microsoft being bothered as the Amiga is hardly a blip on the radar anymore... Everything classic Amigas used to do have long been 'absorbed' and can be done better for less money.

I don't know how much Amiga Inc would need to make to stay afloat - seeing how they seem to do very little actual development of their own, maybe they dont need much at all...

Still there is another scenario - corporations do buy companies that are never meant to make a profit, to be used for tax write offs and incentives... this, to me, seems a pretty likely thing as I've never really heard of Amiga Inc turning a profit in the last 5 years, in fact I've not seen bleep out of them other than the lawsuit....


 

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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2008, 05:23:38 PM »
According to Bill McE there was some sort of deal with Microsoft.  But then... Bill also promised Amiga OS 5, claiming it to be way better than OSX......
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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2008, 05:26:41 PM »
I just had to comment on this.  I went to the link you posted and read this:

"Amiga Inc. initially founded in 1983 and re-established in 2000 is a computer software company"

They basically are a "software" company that needs Hyperion to write their software.  That answers the poster's question.  The whole lawsuit is how they make money.

I had some contractors in my house who broke stuff and they said "It really isn't our fault."  They know we won't get our deductible back and they want us to pay for their damages.  I'm sure it works the same way in the investment world.

Does anyone still want to do business with them if they stay afloat?

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They sell their incredibly innovative CoolTools. Well if that's not gonna work I guess they beg their investors for more money.
 

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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2008, 06:08:32 PM »
Was not said many and many times that Pennti Kouri, who is a very rich man (and one of the major owners of Nokia bonds), is the man beyond the Amiga Inc.?  :rtfm:
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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2008, 06:10:09 PM »
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According to Bill McE there was some sort of deal with Microsoft.  But then... Bill also promised Amiga OS 5, claiming it to be way better than OSX......


I'd really like to see timeline of things Bill McE has said... vs how many were actually true.

I got to the point ages ago of taking everything he said, and reversing it to find the truth.
 

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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2008, 06:26:08 PM »
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They sell their incredibly innovative CoolTools. Well if that's not gonna work I guess they beg their investors for more money.


This has to be the low point for the once great "Amiga" brand.
Now selling 99-cent crap for Windows devices!  Wow, what an embarrassment.  It's even worse than doing absolutely nothing with the Amiga trademark.  Beyond laughable, it's truly sad.  
 

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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2008, 06:30:09 PM »
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Calling that crap "Amiga" is a real insult, I agree. Sadly though it's what happening with our beloved brand...
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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2008, 08:17:55 PM »
Selling T-shirts.
 

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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2008, 08:29:41 PM »
@orb85750

Apparently Bill Mcewen can suck a golf ball through a hosepipe, if that means anything.
 

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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2008, 09:22:56 PM »
I'm going to guess they have one of these:

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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2008, 09:38:24 PM »
I doubt they make money?

When I take a look at their shop I can't help thinking that those "products" are only there because they have to look active. AFAIK Bill and Fleecy paid $5M for Amiga? The small selection in shopamiga would never be able to pay that.

I think Pennti Kouri keeps Amiga alive because he uses the company to move funds around for tax reasons. Probably 100% legit but sad to see Amiga Inc used only for that.

Are there any members near Issaquah who could pay Amiga a visit? Go there in the morning and see who meets up at their address and if Bill shows up go and ask him if they can get a glimpse of OS5 (or Snowmanmaker 2009)?
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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2008, 10:30:28 PM »
Has anyone noticed that NOTHING they sell will actually run on a real Amiga? Kind of sad if you ask me.looks like they have turned their backs on the original hardware. I am sure Amigakit makes 1oo times more money in a year then they do.
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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2008, 11:10:45 PM »
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According to Bill McE there was some sort of deal with Microsoft.  But then... Bill also promised Amiga OS 5, claiming it to be way better than OSX......


There was a slip of the tongue in an interview where he said that AA2 really was OS5 but they had to change the name because they had a deal with microsoft or some such. Probably something to do with not wanting microsoft to think that Amiga was putting a competing operating system on cellphones with windows mobile installed. I think these days, he's saying that AA2 is not OS5 at all, which makes me wonder where OS5 is. I'm pretty sure it's that thing they're calling AA2.  :roll:
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Re: How does Amiga, Inc. make money?
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 22, 2008, 11:32:49 PM »
They're tied to the mafia and use the name to wash moeney...

or, less likely but also possible, after the bank management problems in various countries it shouldn't be a surprise for anyone that many investors are also badly informed, so AInc uses the Amiga name presence on the net to catch them, pretending they're doing something.
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