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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2003, 04:44:07 PM »
Doommaster. Are you calling my hardware a toy AGAIN?

Shut it. Your getting on my tits.
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2003, 04:44:54 PM »
To amigamad:

Now you know that you want an Amiga 4000 Tower.  You would trade that Amiga 1200 for one in a heartbeat!     :-D
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2003, 04:59:52 PM »
Who wouldnt? But i tell you this.

I most DEFINATLEY would not swap my a1200 for 15 amiga 2000's ANY day.

They are old.. Ru.. Oh well forget it.

Im not going into this again.
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2003, 05:14:43 PM »
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You can usually buy an Amiga 2000HD on eBay for less then $100.00. I just bought one for $14.99 plus shipping. It has Kickstart 2.04 and the ECS Chip


I gave a kickstart two a1500 away with a monitor there big and only an amiga 500 with zorro slots .Stick to getting an a1200 there cheap and much more powerfull than the old breeze block. :-)
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2003, 05:17:25 PM »
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Escoms do have probs with the floppy (which can be fixed),


my escom machine is ok with disks but internal tv modulator has issues . :-)
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2003, 05:23:34 PM »
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Now you know that you want an Amiga 4000 Tower. You would trade that Amiga 1200 for one in a heartbeat!  


like **** i would i have an a4000 tower it does not work, and i have an a4000 desktop that is intermitent, and 2 of my a1200,s have ppc acelerators and one is going to be fitted with a mediator pci board. My a1200 is worth 5 times more than both my a4000,s ,any way the a4000 tower is on the verge of getting modified and having the ppc amiga 1200 with the mediator pci fitted ,. :-)
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2003, 05:24:44 PM »
I love my escom - never had a problem with the disk drive, tv modulator or composite devices. Sometimes it makes some funny symbols for about 1/2 second on bootup, then boots every time from the internal drive in about 4 seconds into workbench. Granted, there aint much on the HDD but 4 seconds! Amazin i tell you. My PC takes longer than that to run its memory check! Lovely.
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2003, 05:43:48 PM »
While I would definately take a 1200 over a 2000 any day (no contest), I don't agree that they're better than 4000s.

I was very, very, very glad to get rid of my 1200 tower and replace it with a 4000. A system that has been as solid as a rock since.
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2003, 06:14:14 PM »
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I was very, very, very glad to get rid of my 1200 tower and replace it with a 4000. A system that has been as solid as a rock since.


My main ppc a1200 was put together in 1996-7 and has been running fine ever since apart from a dodgy ide lead wich helped to burn the copper track on the ide interface. now repaired and working fine again .
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2003, 06:27:25 PM »
jeez, for $50! buy the freaking thing already...  :-D
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2003, 06:30:50 PM »
@Doommaster

You obviously haven't followed Amiga hardware very well over the past 10 years.

A1200 is a toy unlike the A2000?? Just because one has a bigger case and more slots (which you can get both of for the A1200 BTW)  the 1200 is faster, has better graphics, and is MUCH more supported today in terms of hardware and software.

the A2091 is the BEST SCSI controller available??  This is just uninformed BS.

Next you're going to be telling me that PPC expansion cards are a waste compared to the original Motorola CPUs because they weren't made by Commodore.

Have you noticed that 2000 systems usually run around $20-50 US, and the 1200 systems usually wind up starting at $100-120US?????  There is a reason for this.

When it comes to Amiga hardware, you don't know what you are talking about.  You've never been able to support ANY of the claims you have made on here, and every single one of them has been quite strongly argued by many different members of this board.

This isn't 1991 anymore!  Things have changed since Commodore first released their hardware, and the ranking of machines is one of those things.  When are you going to understand this?

There is nothing a 2000 can do that a 1200 can't, and a 1200 can do MUCH more, on top of starting off with a faster processor, more RAM and an AGA chipset.

The only place where a 2000 system outruns a 1200 is on price.  It is less expensive to set it up with a toaster (for example) because you don't need a bus extender and a case.  However if you were to pay the extra for the extender, you could run a video toaster 4000 with ALL of its functionality instead of the toaster 2000, or limiting the 4000.

What system do you think current hardware manufacturers are mainly developing for??  What do you think OS4.0 is initially being designed to run on?? the A1200.

BTW I am not in any way trying to dis the 4000, it's an incredible machine, but the suggestion that a 1200 is a toy and is somehow inferior to a 2000 is just ludicrous.

You need to quit believing that whatever commodore did or said 15 years ago is still true today.  Commodore is gone, they have had no direct influence on the Amiga community for many, many years, and just because Commodore put something into a certain marketing bracket does not in any way mean anything by todays standards.

Commodore cards are not necessarily the best cards, and often times commodore hardware is some of the worst hardware available.(Anyone use an a520 compared to the alternatives?)

I swear I'd almost think you were trolling, if you are then you're absolutely brilliant!  If you're not then well...I pity you.
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2003, 06:41:39 PM »
I think most people who have an A2k, A3k or A4k would only part with it when you pried it from their cold, dead hands.

I got my A1200 second-hand off a friend for quite cheap.  Considering the expandability potential of an A1200, compared to most Amigas, they're worth it.

50 euros is a good price for a stock A1200 IMO.

I'd like to know why DoomMaster thinks an A1200 is a toy, and what makes an A2/3/4k so different... I'm fairly sure the upgrade costs are about the same, and you can make a fully expanded A1200 just as good a performer as a [fully expanded] A4000...
 

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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2003, 06:46:34 PM »
@mikeymike

I hope you and the rest of the mods don't mind, but I'm setting up a thread in talk-about for this; it's getting annoying to have any thread mentioning an A1200 turn into this argument :-D

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This isn't as I'm rejecting DoomMaster's opinions (OK, I am :-D) but I'd imagine a few other people must be getting tired...

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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2003, 06:51:52 PM »
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alx wrote:
@mikeymike

I hope you and the rest of the mods don't mind, but I'm setting up a thread in talk-about for this; it's getting annoying to have any thread mentioning an A1200 turn into this argument :-D

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This isn't as I'm rejecting DoomMaster's opinions (OK, I am :-D) but I'd imagine a few other people must be getting tired...


Yeah well us mods can't win no matter what we do. If we leave it people complain the thread was hijacked. If we remove the offending post (and by default the child posts) like i did yeterday we get nasty PMs.
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2003, 07:01:19 PM »
Yeah well us mods can't win no matter what we do. If we leave it people complain the thread was hijacked. If we remove the offending post (and by default the child posts) like i did yeterday we get nasty PMs.

Sorry to hear that, but you should know by now that a moderator can never win..

If it makes any different, I was glad you removed the posts in the C=1 thread, made it a much better read.. Seems my advice to Doommaster failed.. Ah well, his loss
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Re: Advice Needed: Should a buy a vanilla A1200 @ 50 Euro?
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 03, 2003, 07:25:27 PM »
To Wain:

I have been working with computers since the first personal computer was released back in 1977, the Apple computer.  Also, I have personally owned, operated, repaired and upgraded EVERY kind and type of personal computer ever made, including ALL of the different Amiga models.  So, I do NOT need to prove myself to you or any one else for that matter.     :-D
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