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Offline ArcticSon

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 16, 2008, 04:43:56 AM »
I don't remember when the PIV was introduced, but I was looking through some late 90's Amazing Computing mags for reviews and info and the July '98 issue has some ads/prices:

  CompuQuick $379 (US)
  Software Hut (in their 'centerfold' ad) $420
  Safe Harbor $439

The limited supply (although likely with a much smaller
potential market all these years later) is really keeping the 'resale value' way up there...

Also on the front cover of that issue, an Amiga Inc. announcement of Amiga OS 5.0!  :-?
 

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2008, 04:51:30 AM »
I have been after one for around a decade.  I finally got one in a A4000 bundle for around $300!  Finally got lucky I guess!
Going Bananas over AMIGAs since 1987...

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2008, 06:38:26 AM »
The PIV was released 1997. I could be way wrong about the $1200 price tag.  :inquisitive:   I find it tough to believe that the PIV originally sold for less than the PII.

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July '98 issue has some ads/prices:
  CompuQuick $379 (US)
  Software Hut (in their 'centerfold' ad) $420
  Safe Harbor $439


Could you scan those pages to .pdf and share them with the rest of the class?  :-D

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2008, 09:20:59 AM »
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If I remember correctly, the PIV retailed for something like $1200 when released. The PIV was released 1997. I could be way wrong about the $1200 price tag.

Here is a review of the PIV in Feb 1997, which as a few weeks after launch. The price is $439

http://de4.aminet.net/docs/rview/PicassoIV.txt
 

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2008, 09:31:21 AM »
Worth a lot more now!!  :-D
 

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2008, 09:36:53 AM »
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Worth a lot more now!!  :-D

It would seem so. But I'd be amazed if the bidders on that auction actually pay out once they come to their senses.

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Klaus Burkert, father of the Picasso family, died in April 2001 and with him went any chance of Village Tronic making anything Amiga ever again.

How/why is that?  Is he the only one who knew the system that well?

I do not know all the details. I'm not even sure he was still working at / contracted to VT at the time of his death. It could just be a coincidence that VT pulled all development at that date.

Klaus was one of the older members of VT, the driving force behind Amiga development and once he was gone, I am sure it would have been the excuse VT needed to cancel all expensive, non profitable Amiga hardware production.
 

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2008, 12:26:55 PM »
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Klaus was one of the older members of VT, the driving force behind Amiga development and once he was gone, I am sure it would have been the excuse VT needed to cancel all expensive, non profitable Amiga hardware production.


Potential opportunity for Individual Computers or E3B?  In all seriousness, I had planned to buy a Mediator for my 4000D up until the advent of the Deneb.  With a native SVGA and Amiga over SD/FF (PIV,) network (X-Surf 3cc,) and USB (Deneb,) I see little use of a PCI expansion.  Even sound should be feasible with a USB audio adapter.

A redrumloa or AmigaKit Christmas bundle of a Zorro III video card like the PIV and a Deneb would be a power purchase for the Zorro III system owner.

But, then again, I do like the idea of showing PC guys that my nearly two-decade old Amiga can use PCI cards, and the ease of cheap replacements is appealing -- I have TONS of S3 Virge, ATI, and other video cards laying around.
 

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2008, 12:30:24 PM »
I guess I could be a rich man selling my stuff to the US or even more Australia. The pricedifferences between those markets and Europes market is all blown out of proportion  :-o  
I recently got a "split" PicassoIV for 136 EUR in a free bidding. I know that this is on the cheaper side, but those cards go seldomly for more then 200 EUR in Europe.
Now I have three PIV all with Paloma TV add on
Not really interesting, but it`s there.
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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2008, 02:16:41 PM »
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Potential opportunity for Individual Computers or E3B?

Maybe. Unfortunately perhaps a little late for A1200 owners. I tried to convince Jens to include an FPGA capable of being a gfx card in the Indivision but he (quite rightly) said he wasn't interested in overcoming the associated problems and that a top quality scandoubler was all the public wanted.
 

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2008, 06:20:19 PM »
Would it be better to have a CyberstormPPC together with a Picasso IV or CyberVisionPPC?
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« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2008, 06:23:52 PM »
Both - like I have, and Voodoo3, too  :-D
 

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2008, 06:33:23 PM »
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Both - like I have, and Voodoo3, too  :-D


If there's one thing I hate, it's GREED :lol:

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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2008, 06:46:38 PM »
@T3000

I can do the scanning, sure.  It probably won't be until this Fri or Sat though, due to a packed week coming up.  It's the ads that are of interest, or the OS 5.0  'announcement' by Jeff Schindler? Or both!?!

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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2008, 08:24:43 PM »
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If there's one thing I hate, it's GREED :lol:


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Re: Picasso IV - what can it do that the other cards can not?
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2008, 09:07:00 PM »
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Worth a lot more now!!  :-D

It would seem so. But I'd be amazed if the bidders on that auction actually pay out once they come to their senses.


Be amazed, payments are coming in for the items!
 

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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2008, 09:14:37 PM »
Congrats man, you really lucked out! :pint: