Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Amiga floppy SD Emulator  (Read 5191 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ozkanoTopic starter

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2006
  • Posts: 109
    • Show only replies by ozkano
    • http://www.retrocu.com
Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« on: August 11, 2008, 03:48:58 PM »
hi all, there are two floppy emulator projects still in progress in turkish commodore comminity,

I have one of the hardware,

here two videos I have taken, sorry about the conversation it is in turkish, :)

few information about emulator

- works with all games that I tried (dos or track loading)
- supports 2 GB SD card
- adf or addz files have to convert to compitable format
- lcd screen, easy to select, eject, file
- works as df0: or Df1:
- bla bla blaaaaa

http://www.vimeo.com/1497793
http://www.vimeo.com/1497888

 :-D  :-D
http://www.retrocu.com
A500,A500+,A600,A1000,A1200,A2000,A3000,A4000,CDTV,CD32,A1
 

Offline tonyyeb

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2007
  • Posts: 568
    • Show only replies by tonyyeb
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2008, 04:23:11 PM »
Great stuff. Shame you have to convert ADF's to get them to work. Any chance this could be fixed?
Chris (aka tonyyeb)
 

Offline tabuhuso

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Feb 2007
  • Posts: 89
    • Show only replies by tabuhuso
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2008, 04:31:35 PM »
Good work, this project very nice more than others(russian project) :)
Old Amiga repair service.A4000+ppc604e+macrosystem montage set,pegasos2,Draco,all amiga models...
http://www.commodore.gen.tr
 

Offline ozkanoTopic starter

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2006
  • Posts: 109
    • Show only replies by ozkano
    • http://www.retrocu.com
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2008, 04:42:58 PM »
this is the first version and cheap pic used (8 bit, 10 z speed), to directly emulate adf files it must have a faster cpu and RAM requierd. we also thnik about it but it cots more expensive :(
http://www.retrocu.com
A500,A500+,A600,A1000,A1200,A2000,A3000,A4000,CDTV,CD32,A1
 

Offline alexh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2005
  • Posts: 3644
    • Show only replies by alexh
    • http://thalion.atari.org
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2008, 05:11:11 PM »
As Hancock would say "good job" (film reference)

Surely it doesn't matter that it does not support ADF directly as long as the conversion process is quick and the tools support batch processing?

If I can make a few suggestions for possible improvement:

To get the price down further you could consider getting rid of the LCD. It might sound drastic but you've got a display device connected to the host computer!

You could replace the LCD with a default disk image on the SD card which would contain a boot program (different for whatever host you are running on) small, just a few sectors. The boot program would display the SD's contents using the hosts gfx on the Monitor/TV screen. It require some clever PIC code to convert the current SD card contents dynamically into virtual disk data on the rest of the disk. Disk image selection would be made by the host computer issuing particular floppy disk commands the PIC code can interpret. Once a disk image has been select it would remain selected until power off, or the eject button is pressed whereby it would default back to this boot disk image.

If you could do that it would be advantageous to make the PCB the same size as a standard floppy disk drive so that it would fit internally, the control interface could be only one button (Eject) used in a similar way to the Mac mouse (single click, double click, click and hold etc).

I am sure you could find suitable programmers to produce the boot menu program for each platform, if you open-source the API then communities would just write their own!

Just some suggestions.

Of course this idea is not practical for devices without a display.

Also the Amiga is not a good commercial target for this device, WHDLoad almost makes it redundant :-(

The Atari ST is much more of an attractive platform, commercially, for floppy disk emulation. However they have some coders who are creating their own equivalents of WHDload.
 

Offline ozkanoTopic starter

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2006
  • Posts: 109
    • Show only replies by ozkano
    • http://www.retrocu.com
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2008, 06:34:54 PM »
alexh thanks for your suggestion, first of all this project does not belong to me and I dont know wheather owner of the project release source or not


http://www.retrocu.com
A500,A500+,A600,A1000,A1200,A2000,A3000,A4000,CDTV,CD32,A1
 

Offline alexh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2005
  • Posts: 3644
    • Show only replies by alexh
    • http://thalion.atari.org
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2008, 06:57:39 PM »
If you understand the concepts I bring up here and you like them, why not re-post them to the turkish bbs where the developers read?
 

Offline Jeff_HxC

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Apr 2006
  • Posts: 69
    • Show only replies by Jeff_HxC
    • http://hxc2001.free.fr
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2008, 12:55:08 PM »
mhh , this one looks very very similar to mine floppy emulator (HxC Floppy Emulator) : is it the same ?

http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/index.html#SDCARDFloppyemulator




http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/SDCARD_HxCFloppyEmulator.avi
« Last Edit: September 26, 2009, 12:44:47 PM by Jeff_HxC »
 

Offline ozkanoTopic starter

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2006
  • Posts: 109
    • Show only replies by ozkano
    • http://www.retrocu.com
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2008, 03:27:52 PM »
yes it looks very similar,
http://www.retrocu.com
A500,A500+,A600,A1000,A1200,A2000,A3000,A4000,CDTV,CD32,A1
 

Offline Firedawg

  • VIP / Donor - Lifetime Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jul 2007
  • Posts: 368
    • Show only replies by Firedawg
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2008, 04:02:52 PM »
It looks rather identical, could they be building upon HxC's already published Floppy Emulator?  If they are they should give credit where credit is due..........   :whack:  
Amiga 4000T/60 - A2000/60 - 1200T/60, Soldered Up 3 x Minimig 1.1, Mac Mini 1.5 Running MacOSX/MOS 2.7-Registered
 

Offline Jeff_HxC

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Apr 2006
  • Posts: 69
    • Show only replies by Jeff_HxC
    • http://hxc2001.free.fr
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2008, 05:50:25 PM »
Quote

by Firedawg on 2008/8/12 17:02:52
It looks rather identical, could they be building upon HxC's already published Floppy Emulator? If they are they should give credit where credit is due..........  


agreed!
this doesn't encourage to make open source projects...

ozkano, who make this emulator and which software are you using to convert adf/adz file ?





 

Offline countzero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2005
  • Posts: 1938
    • Show only replies by countzero
    • http://blog.coze.org
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2008, 06:06:04 PM »
This project was done by EMREZ. I had my eyes on this for a while, this is an elusive guy and he can not give logical answers to some questions I asked about his projects on the forum, so I'm sure he couldn't have done this project by himself without some kind of 'intervention'.

Actually, I believe there might be a misunderstanding in place, cause I don't remember him claiming to have done the design of this project himself. He just built the HxC emulator and Ozkan thought he done the design himself. He should have told he's using the design from jeff though ... And ozkan should have asked about this before opening this thread. (Ozkan, abicim keske atlamasaydin, millet tasarimi emrez yapti zannetti.)

Actually, in this thread he says he got some problems about 'software' which were solved with the help of a 'friend from france'  :lol: wonder who he is  :lol:

Finally, I would like to mention that this project has nothing to do with the other Turkish floppy emulator project, TFE, which is totally Tolga's original work.
I believe in mt. Fuji
 

Offline ozkanoTopic starter

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2006
  • Posts: 109
    • Show only replies by ozkano
    • http://www.retrocu.com
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2008, 06:09:54 PM »
@Jeff_HxC, this guy name is emre, if you wish I can give his email (by the way he does not know english)

is your project open source I saw your hardware design but have you relaes pic firmware

he use CAPSImg.dll with small gui
http://www.retrocu.com
A500,A500+,A600,A1000,A1200,A2000,A3000,A4000,CDTV,CD32,A1
 

Offline motorollin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2005
  • Posts: 8669
    • Show only replies by motorollin
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2008, 06:24:08 PM »
Who is the guy in the video?

--
moto
Code: [Select]
10  IT\'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
20  FOR C = 1 TO 2
30     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA
40     DA-NA-NAAAA-NAAAA DA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAAA
50  NEXT C
60  NA-NA-NAAAA
70  NA-NA NA-NA-NA-NA-NAAAA NAAA-NAAAAAAAAAAA
80  GOTO 10
 

Offline countzero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2005
  • Posts: 1938
    • Show only replies by countzero
    • http://blog.coze.org
Re: Amiga floppy SD Emulator
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2008, 06:28:46 PM »
Quote

motorollin wrote:
Who is the guy in the video?

--
moto


Why ? fancy a trip to Istanbul ?  :-P

He's Emre, the guy who did the 'project'. Ozkan is the cameraman AFAIK.
I believe in mt. Fuji