Wither Natami?

[Turambar]

Atheist wrote:

ONLY AMIGA makes it possible!!!!!!!

No, it doesn't. In fact if you had bothered reading this thread you would realise that Amiga makes a lot of things impossible!!!!!!!

[bloodline]

CodeSmith wrote:
@Atheist

Um, Gunnar has said many times that "cycle exact" is meaningless when applied to the amiga.  There are too many permutations of CPU and chipset, so most Amiga software makes allowances for it.

Don't be stupid...

[Atheist]

CodeSmith wrote:
@Atheist

Um, Gunnar has said many times that "cycle exact" is meaningless when applied to the amiga.  There are too many permutations of CPU and chipset, so most Amiga software makes allowances for it.

Hi CodeSmith,

Actually, I was primarily referring to all the first model of NatAmi60s would be cycle exact to each other. The ones released next year might not be, but they will to their runs.

While the different Amiga 500s with same CPU and OCS say, also might not be cycle exact, due to different revisions of Paula, Denise etc. they were much more similar than the hundreds of different components that kept appearing on the PC side.

[Atheist]

Hi bloodline,

Last time I looked into AmigaForever, they said they were working on AGA and it was available but not reliable yet.

Thought they gave up on AGA as it was too taxing on PCs.

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Atheist wrote:
Hi bloodline,

Last time I looked into AmigaForever, they said they were working on AGA and it was available but not reliable yet.

Thought they gave up on AGA as it was too taxing on PCs.

Then the last time you looked must have been in 2002...

AGA isn't taxing, it is only a very small improvement over ECS... The big problem with AGA is that it was a massive kludge and was poorly documented compared to the very well known OCS.

[Atheist]

bloodline wrote:

Then the last time you looked must have been in 2002...

AGA isn't taxing, it is only a very small improvement over ECS... The big problem with AGA is that it was a massive kludge and was poorly documented compared to the very well known OCS.

Hi bloodline,

256 colours of 16 million over 32 and 32 more shades of the first 32 from 4096 in extra half bright mode is "only a very small improvement"?


You'd make a TERRIFIC supervisor. "What? Only three levels of the pyramid built this month? Heads are gonna roll!"

[jj]

I would really suggest that anyone who wants to keep their sanity, refrains from pointing out the stupidity of atheist's posts.

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Atheist wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Then the last time you looked must have been in 2002...

AGA isn't taxing, it is only a very small improvement over ECS... The big problem with AGA is that it was a massive kludge and was poorly documented compared to the very well known OCS.

Hi bloodline,

256 colours of 16 million over 32 and 32 more shades of the first 32 from 4096 in extra half bright mode is "only a very small improvement"?


You'd make a TERRIFIC supervisor. "What? Only three levels of the pyramid built this month? Heads are gonna roll!"

Yes... AGA only requires 2 extra bits in the bit planes... And 3 extra bits in the palette table to achieve the extra colours...

The sprite hardware had a bit of an overhaul and a burst mode was added to Alice... The AGA chipset was a pathetic upgrade... Especially compared to what the PC gfx chip vendors were making at the time!!!!

[jj]

Just add to the whole british/european thing.  TBH I do take things one step futher.  I am Welsh, not British  :lol:  :-D

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JJ wrote:
Just add to the whole british/european thing.  TBH I do take things one step futher.  I am Welsh, not British  :lol:  :-D

Well, my mother is Welsh and my father English... So I think that puts me firmly in the British camp

[jj]

Well my father is english, my mother was welsh. my mothers parents were welsh and scottish, and my fathers parents were english.  There is some irish blood in family somewhere down the line too.

Im still Welsh though  :-)

[darksun9210]

hmmm, i think i'm fairly english through and through. small town farming communities not really getting out and about much...
thinking about it, i wonder if the accordian, morris dancing and real ale, is this island's equivilent of the banjo, square dancing, and moonshine? :lol:

[SamuraiCrow]

bloodline wrote:

Yes... AGA only requires 2 extra bits in the bit planes... And 3 extra bits in the palette table to achieve the extra colours...

The sprite hardware had a bit of an overhaul and a burst mode was added to Alice... The AGA chipset was a pathetic upgrade... Especially compared to what the PC gfx chip vendors were making at the time!!!!

Actually the PC chip makers were about 3 years later since they couldn't write hardware-accelerated drivers until Windows 95 came out.

Also, the palette table was expanded from 12-bits per entry to 25.

[bloodline]

SamuraiCrow wrote:

bloodline wrote:

Yes... AGA only requires 2 extra bits in the bit planes... And 3 extra bits in the palette table to achieve the extra colours...

The sprite hardware had a bit of an overhaul and a burst mode was added to Alice... The AGA chipset was a pathetic upgrade... Especially compared to what the PC gfx chip vendors were making at the time!!!!

Actually the PC chip makers were about 3 years later since they couldn't write hardware-accelerated drivers until Windows 95 came out.

No, S3 had some pretty cool stuff out even by 1991... Others followed pretty quickly... Even the Falcon had 16bit chunky, when the Amiga was still stuck with its archaic planar display...

Also, the palette table was expanded from 12-bits per entry to 25.

Um... That's what I said (I should have made it clear I was saying 3bits added per colour gun)... I didn't realise it the OCS/ECS only had 4bits per gun though? (-Edit- Just checked, the OCS only had 4bit per gun.) I thought it was 5 bits per gun!!! Thus the addition of of 3 bits per gun to bring the entry to 24bit (+one Genlock bit?)... damn it's been so long since I messed around with Amiga hardware... it must be over 10 years now :-(

[kolla]

I happen to be British also, and I too would perfer to not be refered to as European... because I'm not.

So what continent do you come from then?

You have to be pretty uptight and stupid to believe that the British isles are not part of Europe just because you dont fancy EU or whatever. If you as Brits are not European, then _noone_ is European.

And please stop changing the meaning of words, sheesh!

[bloodline]

kolla wrote:

I happen to be British also, and I too would perfer to not be refered to as European... because I'm not.

So what continent do you come from then?

You have to be pretty uptight and stupid to believe that the British isles are not part of Europe just because you dont fancy EU or whatever. If you as Brits are not European, then _noone_ is European.

And please stop changing the meaning of words, sheesh!

You have to be pretty uptight not to get deadpan British humour

Sheesh; How American!