A4000 INTERNET WORKING WITH DENEB

[taunusand]

I think my internet is slow tonight  :-?
Anyway..
Amiga 4000 060/50Mhz 2+16+128mb ram, mediator with 10/100 netcard and Voodoo 3000..
PC: AMD Sempron 2600+ 1,6Ghz with 512mb ram, onboard graphics card and onboard 10/100 netcard..
I can't tell much about my PC, it's just a cheap office pc.. I did not have a nice A4000 system when I bought it in 2006.
I just had standard A500/600/1200 machines back then :-P

I tried to download the same Firefox that you did.
Amiga: 2min 8sec
PC:  1min 41sec

Then I tried VICE-AROS64-2.0.tar.gz from aminet, 6,3MB..
Amiga: 43sec
PC: 49sec
This was a nice expirence for me :-D

But anyway, I usaly download with about 200kb/s, but it was slower than normal tonight  :-?

Both computers are connected to the same switch.

[Darrin]

I just tried that VICE-AROS file from Aminet.

Amiga:  2 min 35 sec
PC:  27 sec

Big difference!

[taunusand]

It was nice for me to find out that my Amiga's download time is about just as fast to my "new(ish?)" PC :-)

Maybe there are a limited kb/s on USB?
I don't know...

I apologice for my bad english, I think there are some errors in what I wrote above. :-P

[Darrin]

taunusand wrote:
It was nice for me to find out that my Amiga's download time is about just as fast to my "new(ish?)" PC :-)

Maybe there are a limited kb/s on USB?
I don't know...

I apologice for my bad english, I think there are some errors in what I wrote above. :-P

Your English is great.  :-)

Yes, it might be a USB limit.  I really should yank the USB device out of the Amiga and use it on the PC for testing, but the cable is attached to the internal USB port on the Deneb and I'll have to take the A4000 apart again in order to reattach it.

[RMK305]

Great thread!

Please do take the time to pull your machine appart to do that test. This is proving very informative and is making me  think about the USB option for connecting the AMIGA to the net

Could  you use a wireless network adaptor with the DENEB?

[Darrin]

RMK305 wrote:
Great thread!

Please do take the time to pull your machine appart to do that test. This is proving very informative and is making me  think about the USB option for connecting the AMIGA to the net

Could  you use a wireless network adaptor with the DENEB?

OK, I pulled the device from the A4000 and plugged it into the PC.  It asked for the install disk, loaded teh driver, told me there was a problem and then refused to recognise the device.  I rebooted and reinserted the device and it refused to even light up.

I plugged it into my Vista laptop which accepted it with no need for the driver CD and did the test from there.

download times on PC using USB Ethernet adapter:

Firefox:  22 secs
Vice-AROS:  27 secs

[Matt_H]

Could you use a wireless network adaptor with the DENEB?

Nope. No drivers, unfortunately.

You could plug a wired adapter into a bridge, though. That's what I'm doing.

[taunusand]

I tried to download the same Firefox that you did, again.
Amiga: 1min 46sec
PC: 1min 13sec

I wonder why it is faster than yesterday  :-?

[Darrin]

taunusand wrote:
I tried to download the same Firefox that you did, again.
Amiga: 1min 46sec
PC: 1min 13sec

I wonder why it is faster than yesterday  :-?

These sort of tests are always a bit dodgy.  My cable modem has a habbit of disconnecting several times a day and I can notice speed increases and decreases all the time.

Perhaps pinging the Amiga from the PC with a set amount of data and seeing what the response time is would be a better guide to how well the USB Ethernet is performing on the Deneb?

[taunusand]

Darrin wrote:
Perhaps pinging the Amiga from the PC with a set amount of data and seeing what the response time is would be a better guide to how well the USB Ethernet is performing on the Deneb?

How would you do that? My networking skills are not that good ;-)
Anyway, my internet should be 2048/512kbit. Normally it's faster, but not the last few days!

[Framiga]

thanks for testing Darrin! not a good result unfortunately :-(

Try to load IBrowse 2.4 and look in the "Download manager" window, the actual speed (cps)

Do the same from Opera

Thanks

edit- your using Genesis IIRC?

Goto GenesisPrefs > Advanced and set the send/receive buffers to 32768 (both)

I'm not on AmigaOS3.9 currently so check to have these settings in AmiTCP:db/AmiTCP.config (configurable through the GenesisPrefs as well)

PRIORITY = 5

MBUF_CONF Initial =     2
MBUF_CONF Chunk =       64
MBUF_CONF ClChunk =     4
MBUF_CONF MaxMem =      2048
MBUF_CONF ClusterSize = 2048

;LOG Count =     4
;LOG Len =     128
;LOG Filter =    7
LOG FilterCons = 7
LOG FilterFile = 7

DebugSana = no
DebugIP =   no
Gateway =   no
IPSendRedirects = no
;UseNameServer = SECOND
;UseLoopBack = YES

TCP_SendSpace = 32768
TCP_RecvSpace = 32768

ConsoleName = "nil:"
LogFileName = "T:AmiTCP.log"

[Darrin]

taunusand wrote:
How would you do that? My networking skills are not that good ;-)
Anyway, my internet should be 2048/512kbit. Normally it's faster, but not the last few days!

How about:

PING 192.168.0.110 -l

;-)

[Darrin]

@ Framiga:

Thnaks for that.  I was thinking about using another browser as my AWeb is definately crippled (due to it's inability to turn off cookie confirmation) which may also be affecting the speed.  I also have enough memory to increase the buffer sizes so hopefully that will make a difference too.

I'll have a go at it today and report the results.

[platon42]

taunusand wrote:
I tried to download the same Firefox that you did, again.
Amiga: 1min 46sec
PC: 1min 13sec

I wonder why it is faster than yesterday  :-?

If you want to do some serious benchmarking, you shouldn't try to use

a) a browser which might just use caching or other things influencing
b) disk access at the same time (such as saving to disk, adding the file system overhead)
c) has application protocol overhead (e.g. http chunked content parsing)
d) and ensure a source connection that is fast enough and free of jitter

Using tcpspeed (available for various operating systems) within the same LAN usually fulfills this.

Also: MiamiDx is much slower than other TCP/IP stacks. Moreover, it depends on the settings (enabling NAT, Gateway and Firewall makes it even slower).

Last time I had the time for tests, I got over 800KB/sec in both directions with the Asix dongle with Deneb Z3 PIO.

[Tension]

Yous are prob using a demo version of AWEB.

Use the latest APL one.  It works fine for me.

[Damion]

Sorry to dig this one up, but I wanted to post a recent tcpspeed benchmark using the DENEB, a USB200M, and Genesis.

Amiga receving from PC: 1516 kB/s

PC receiving from Amiga: 1592 kB/s

On the Amiga, it's clear the USB NICs have the potential of blowing all the old Zorro cards out of the water. Looking forward to testing again when Roadshow is released.