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Offline peroxidechicken

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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2003, 08:24:27 AM »
Dear Bill McEwen:

It has come to my attention that I'm only supposed to run the vapourous OS4 on sub-standard, over-priced and often defective Amiga branded hardware.  

Fat chance!  

Furthermore, restrictive End User Licenses are just like restrictive underware - best taken off.  

Cheers Big-Ears.  

H202
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Amiga (St)Inc(s)

ps  I don't want you typing any more little notes so, I'd like my keyboard back please.  
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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2003, 08:37:16 AM »
It definately would have been interesting to
see the amigas C= had the potential of releasing.
Oh well....

As it is now, I'm thinking about about an x86
setup (maybe laptop?) for AROS/Win, and of course
the Pegasos in a few months.
 

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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2003, 10:36:48 AM »
Actually, I remember that there was a license agreement with these old Workbench versions. I remember seeing it written on the sealed envelope that contained AmigaDOS 1.3 and the other software.

It said something along the lines of 'blah, blah, blah... turn on your Amiga and start using the software. Just ignore anything written here'... So I did.
 

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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2003, 11:30:54 AM »
@Dan - Don´t it almost makes you wish the old Commodore was back???

It does in the sense that we had a unified approach to things - regardless of whether or not you agreed with a lot of Commodore's hardware/software decisions, we were all in the same boat, rowing in the same direction.

Of course, Commodore's mismanagement is one of the things that landed us all in this mess in the first place, but they did a lot of things right too, and I'd rather see them back than watch this whole, wretched shambles that's jokingly referred to as a "market" continue for one second more, dragging down the once great name of the Amiga further and further into ridicule and farce.
 

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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2003, 11:34:57 AM »
Commodore was "only" using the "Amiga money" for their clone machines ... Genesi is doing everything to try to kill Amiga and the community :-x
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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2003, 11:55:55 AM »
Commodore never said how great something would be while trying to hide two empty hands behind their back. They did they opposite like denying that there was gonna be an A500+ until the day it was released.
Even if they took money from the Amiga an placed in the PC-department atleast they made Amigas.
And nobody could argue that it wasn´t an Amiga.
Apple did it right the first time, bring back the Newton!
 

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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2003, 12:18:52 PM »
Yes thanks to Genesi
 

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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2003, 01:58:40 PM »
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the more amiga flames I see...the more I wish A.inc was out of business...as it would make things easier for EVERYONE!


Heh, Who'd NOTICE?  :-o
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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2003, 02:14:45 PM »
My status reached Cult Member during this, ironic isnt it? :roflmao:
Which cult should i choose?
I choose the Commodore Amiga m68k with customchips cult  :-P
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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2003, 03:25:13 PM »
Genesi is after A Inc. because they are affraid that when OS 4 does release they will be over powered in this nitch market.  They want OS 4 to run on Pegasos hardware thus justifying their existence.  The old "Good Offense is the Best Defense" thing.  So what !

A Inc. is stupid.  In this nitch market, you would think you would want your OS on every PPC board possible.  Especially if Genesi wanted it to run on the Pegasos (without setting restrictions of course).

As far as hardware goes - I like'd Pegasos more than I did AmigaOne.  However, round 2 of board releases may change that !  As far as OS's go, Morph looks good.  Can't say the same about OS 4, but I do wait in anticipation.

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I will buy "ZIP" until OS 4 is available (?) and realease II of the new Mobo's are out.  Or until I get tired of waiting and buy a Mac G5.
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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2003, 05:08:03 PM »
>I choose the Commodore Amiga m68k with customchips cult

Welcome to our humble club...

Here we learn not to trust business men
who want to take advantage of us.

Commodore made the most perfect machine ever,
and so.. they could not make anything better.

Here we have come to rest and understood
that there cannot be any better computer
than the 68k amiga with console support.

game developers should take advantage of these
chips, and once again make quality flowing games,
and not fall into the modular computers trap.

but.. alas... hardware manufacturers
does not like the perfection,
wich this machine is,
so they want you to buy their latest,
and then the latest latest,
and then new latest latest...
and so it goes..

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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2003, 05:45:44 PM »
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Don´t it almost makes you wish the old Commodore was back


No its there mistakes and money grabbing that have got us where we are now. :-)
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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2003, 06:44:25 PM »
Actually, I wish that a company with strong financial backing, a good marketting department, good heart and skillfull experienced Amiga hardware and software engineers/specialists would come out and by 2006/7 roll-out the next generation of Amiga computer systems.

THAT would be, I believe, what us Amigans would want.

And that would cause a rip in the fragment of time and space and cause Microshaft to tremble.hehe (I wish.)

Will that happen?  Nah. :python:
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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2003, 09:26:07 PM »
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Im>bE wrote:
>I choose the Commodore Amiga m68k with customchips cult

Welcome to our humble club...

Here we learn not to trust business men
who want to take advantage of us.

Doesn´t seem like many have learned that! :-)
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Commodore made the most perfect machine ever,
and so.. they could not make anything better.

Here we have come to rest and understood
that there cannot be any better computer
than the 68k amiga with console support.

game developers should take advantage of these
chips, and once again make quality flowing games,
and not fall into the modular computers trap.

Who needs Quake341 or Unreal234 or 3D rendered Fantays456 or WarAlert219
Once upon a time gamedevelopers had orginal concept for their games. Lets remmeber that time.:-)
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but.. alas... hardware manufacturers
does not like the perfection,
wich this machine is,
so they want you to buy their latest,
and then the latest latest,
and then new latest latest...
and so it goes..


A500 lasted on the market 10years
Athlon 500 for 10 months. :-D
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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2003, 01:09:04 AM »
if they came back with same logo, full production of new systems and better management and a killer marketting plan HELL YEA, IN A HEARTBEAT, i WOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT BUYING STOCK IN THE COMPANY.
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Re: Don´t you almost wish Commodore was back???
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 22, 2003, 02:23:09 AM »
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Im>bE wrote:

Commodore made the most perfect machine ever,
and so.. they could not make anything better.



Commodore made nothing apart from mistakes, the original A1000 concept was made around 1981 (same year i was born incidently :)  by a handful of people who had no affiliations with any company (apart from one of the blokes used to work at Atari i think). All they needed was funding, and as far as i remember no-one else was interested apart from Commodore, all they did was to invest and promote the Amiga, and of course reap the rewards then f*ck it up. Spose it was better than making calculators (from CBM's point of view).

Sometimes I wonder what wouldve happened if Commodore UK bought Commodore instead of Gateway, i always thought David Pleasence had the right idea.  Or if IBM hadnt said no all those years ago, imagine that, the "IBM Amiga"

eek