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A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« on: July 05, 2008, 05:08:02 PM »
Check this LINK out, looks fake to me. I do hope i'm right in thinking someone has just stuck a "C=" sticker on it.
 

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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 05:11:15 PM »
I don't know whether that particular one is real or not, but Commodore *did* make PCs.

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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 05:12:29 PM »
Well Commodore did make PCs... though I have no idea what they looked like, I never had one.

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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 05:21:22 PM »
hmmm...at first glance looks like a fake one.

Check out this site for some pictures of original commodore PCs. They all looked more like C128D or A2000:
http://www.homecomputer.de/pages/f_commodore.html
 

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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 05:23:08 PM »
Ah yes, the Commodore Colt. I repaired them along with other clone systems of the day. (circa 1990) I don't recall them releasing a Pentium model, but it must have been near the end of their days. 286/386 Colts were never 100% IBM compatible despite the claims. I used to run side by side comparisons for customers to prove where their software problems were coming from.

It was one of my theories of the day that Commodore lost so much money trying to crack the clone market with an inferior unit, that Amiga developement suffered and eventually the product failure helped crash the company.

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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 05:24:21 PM »
Actually, come to think of it I knew they did but I thought they had similar (if not, the same) cases to their Amiga ones. I cant think why a computer company would want to compete with themselfs. :-?
 

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 05:30:43 PM »
When I went to high school the school had some 286 Commodore machines.

They looked just like Amiga 2000 machines, so the first time I saw them my heart went racing like crazy, but then I was dissapointed...

Dunno how amiga compatible the Commodore PC Case was in respect to house an Amiga 2000 motherboard, naturally I never took those apart. But the only differences you see was in the lower left hand corner of the front it said Commodore Business Machines and some PC model name 286 blah blah.

Some pics of other CBM PCs, amogst these the  here (could not find the one I saw): linky

There is for instance a pic of the CBM PC-50-II which case ended up being adapted for the Amiga 4000.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2008, 05:50:05 PM »
This one's definitely too new for something out of West Chester. Commodore finally dumped their PC division some time in fiscal 1993 when they realized what a bad idea it was. Could be an Escom machine - they were supposedly using the Commodore brand to hawk PCs in parallel with Amiga Technologies' development.
 

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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 06:00:47 PM »
There were more or less 2 different series of C= PCs, the 1st well known one consisted of 8088-80386 looked abit like an A2000 and even allowed the use of Amiga-mice. Those were named PC10,PC20 ....

The later one featured Pentiums and maybe 486s, and came in standard AT-format and cases. Were sold as "Commodore profeesional" or something like.
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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 06:02:02 PM »
Commodore did 286, 386, 486 PC's too

I happen to own one of thw above, the case looks like an A4000 case slimmed down

I've also seen C= branded Pentium I PC's which aren't fake, I guess it's that company Tulip or whatever they were called that bought the C= brand the put together and sold these "later" C= PC's
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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 06:13:01 PM »
I am pretty much sure it's fake.

A 100MHz Pentium processor would have been 1994/1995.
 

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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2008, 06:26:05 PM »
This is from the Escom days and there badged PC's. They came with Commodore branded mouse, keyboard and amplified speakers(Which where pretty good)

Our next door neighbour had one these which I had to set up for them along with a Laserjet 4L which they gave to me. Great little printer that worked well with my A1200. Still works now.

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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2008, 07:50:45 PM »
I thought Escom only owned the "Amiga" name and the permission to build the machines (A1200 for example)?
 

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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 07:52:59 PM »
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I thought Escom only owned the "Amiga" name and the permission to build the machines (A1200 for example)?


Escom bought everything Amiga, and formed Amiga Technologies, to keep all Amiga IP together... I have no idea what happened to the Commodore IP...

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Re: A Commodore PeeCee? Surely not?!
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2008, 07:57:05 PM »
Pitty, I think "Commodore" has much more badge then the Amiga name. But why would such a small company make PC's? Wouldn't it have been safer to just concerntrate on the Amiga brand?
I'm guessing now but am I right in thinking the PC's were named "Commodore" and the Amiga's were just named "Amiga" by Escom?