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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2008, 11:45:26 AM »
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How many layers is this board?
What are the dimensions? (rough estimate)


The PCB appears to be 342 mm x 317 mm, 4 layers, 1.6 mm Fr4.

Ok, I was going to pretend that I was the one who figured it out, but I heard it from one of the PCB manufacturers I've been in touch with.

Funny thing.  The more I discover about this board, the more expensive it gets.  For some reason, I assumed it was two layers (after a quick glimpse on the schematics)

Four layers revs the price up to somewhere around £250+S&H.
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2008, 07:49:04 PM »
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our layers revs the price up to somewhere around £250+S&H.


Not as bad as I thought... what if we got together, say ten people? Would that affect the price?
 

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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2008, 08:32:27 PM »
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this board requires an ECS chipset, so an A1000 will not do it. You need an A500+ or A3000. Also an Amber chip from an A3000 if you want the scandoubler.


Would an A600 work?


Nope... Well not without some extreme hardship anyway! All the chips in the A600 are SMT so they don't fit the sockets for the older versions of the chips. It also means they're soldered directly to the A600 mainboard using tiny connections, meaning removal is quite difficult without specialised equipment and/or causing damage to the chips.

An A500+ should be easily come by though, no?
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2008, 11:13:38 PM »
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A600 are SMT so they don't fit the sockets for the older versions of the chips.


I see! Thank you!

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An A500+ should be easily come by though, no?


Probably, it's been a while since I saw one up for grabs here. 600s are much easier to find...
 

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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2008, 01:42:45 AM »
That is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. :cry:

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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2008, 02:05:43 AM »
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Now, what we need is someone to clone the A1000 case... any takers? :)


I might be able to reproduce a case with my modeling software. That would allow many plastics or rapid prototyping houses to produce the needed parts from my templates. It would take a bare case and time. Both of which I am terribly short on right now. I have a 1000, but I dont' think I want to strip it down. Maybe I can find a derelict some where.

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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2008, 02:33:03 AM »
As somebody with 8 a1ks, i gotta tell you, these machines cases are really fragile at this point.
 

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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2008, 04:28:43 AM »
Seems odd...  People mount their A1200s/A4000s into PC Tower cases to gain room for cooling, modern power supplies, and drive expansion.  Now here is a new board that wants you to use the old cases.  

Sorry, seems like a bad idea.  Even though the retro look is cool, It doesn't make sense to me.  The majority of A1000 cases are old, yellow, and hard to come by.  Not to mention that the power supplies and floppy drives are 20+ years old.
 

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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2008, 06:13:18 AM »
>by Olecranon on 2008/5/22 23:28:43
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>Seems odd... People mount their A1200s/A4000s into PC Tower >cases to gain room for cooling, modern power supplies, and >drive expansion. Now here is a new board that wants you to >use the old cases.

I would think he can sell a 1000+ if the power supply was replaced (or replaceable) with a rechargeable li-ion battery w/inverter and connector for lcd.  If you are going to make so many hardware upgrades, mine as well go for it all with the latest while maintaining compatibility.

>Sorry, seems like a bad idea. Even though the retro look is >cool, It doesn't make sense to me. The majority of A1000
>cases are old, yellow, and hard to come by. Not to mention >that the power supplies and floppy drives are 20+ years old.

I am sure you can paint the case.  I think he's offering alternative boot device or you can always get a floppy simulator (to save on power as well).
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2008, 06:26:14 AM »
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I think there is one ECS chip in some A500


I'm with you on this one. My first Amiga was an A500 with the ECS business instead of the OCS business.
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2008, 09:25:26 AM »
I would love to get my hands on something like this. It would be perfect too, because I already have an 030, 882, and ECS chipset going unused in my A2000 (due to the fact that it only works intermittantly)
 

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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2008, 09:52:48 AM »

    This is insane. There's absolutely no way it's practical as a product, but it's still crazy impressive nonetheless.
 

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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2008, 09:10:44 PM »
I was wondering, how many people would be interested in getting one of these?
If enough of us are interested, I am sure the pbc boards could be bought at a reasonable price (2-300 us$)
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2008, 10:12:02 PM »
Why this feat was done with ECS instead of AGA is beyond me, sorry...
Apart from this, it looks fantastic.
 

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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2008, 12:49:00 AM »
@Kristian95

I could go for that, but dollars not pounds of course. Some are missing the point I think, about the A1000 - hello, it is the 'Amiga' and it great to see it get some attention these days. To me it is the best case design ever, still a small foot print today. I wish I could find a PC type case like this. YAWN to towers.



 
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Re: New Mainboard released ...
« Reply #59 from previous page: May 30, 2008, 01:20:29 AM »
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Zac67 wrote:
Why this feat was done with ECS instead of AGA is beyond me, sorry...
Apart from this, it looks fantastic.


The AGA chips are probably harder to come by, and aren't they surface mounted for the most part in the 1200 and 4000?