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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 09, 2008, 10:40:46 PM »
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no joy it would seem, I put the pc formated disk in the amiga. only one icon pops up and that looks the same as the wb disk icon only it says DF0:???? thats it.

After you mounted PC0: ?
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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2008, 11:15:36 PM »
thats correct taunusand.
 

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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2008, 11:19:21 PM »
When you select the PC0 file and choose Icons/Information, you should see in the Tool Types section-

ACTIVATE=1
UNIT=0

If they do not exist, create them and try again.
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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2008, 11:43:41 PM »
they are already there,
And the default tool is = c:Mount
 

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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2008, 11:49:32 PM »
OK, you say the unit number field is commented out if you view it as a text file?  If you mean with a ; just delete it, save and ...try again...
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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2008, 12:35:23 AM »
it is commented out with /* and *\, do I use MEmacs to edit it  or is there another way?

p.s. sorry for all this, like I said at the start I'm a noob and just learning how to use this thing after not having one since 1993.
 

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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2008, 12:57:55 AM »
I've never used MEmacs, just Ed should do it.

Workbench menu, Execute Command.
Type -

ed devs:dosdrivers/pc0
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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2008, 01:26:53 AM »
did that, but it does not seem to have worked.
 

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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2008, 04:18:02 AM »
 Please, stop! Do EXACTLY this way:

 1-Put your WB disk in the drive and boot the Amiga;

 2-When the Amiga boots, swap the disk for the "Storage" one;

 3-Mount PC0 clicking on the icon twice. You'll notice when the driver is mounted because: WB (the OS) will ask for the WB disk, then for the Storage again;

 4-Take the disks out.

 5- Put an unformatted disk on the unit, with the "HD" hole covered (or a true DD disk). Then will appear two disks icons on the screen;

 6- Left-click on PC0:????? icon once;

 7- Press mouse right button. From the pull-down menu, select ICON >> FORMAT DISK;

 8- If the system asks for the WB disk, take the unformatted out and put the WB disk;

 9- Take the WB disk out when the disk LED goes off;

 10- Put the unformatted disk on drive again and wait until the format operation is done;

 11- Use the FAT-formatted disk in your PC to move archives to and from it.

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 Troubleshooting:
 
 - If the PC0 driver don't mount (and only if)), put the WB disk on the drive, press the right-Amiga key (on the keyboard) and press "E" at the same time. In the window that will open, type "ED dfgndf(whatever)".

 In the EDconsole, right click in any area and in the pull-down menu select File >> open. Put the Storage disk on drive and look for the PC0 file (NOT THE PC0.INFO !!!!!. Left-click twice on the file name.

 Before any editing, just look if the correct sets are there: unit 0 (zero), active 1 (means: TRUE). DON'T MESS WITH OTHER SETTINGS!
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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2008, 06:25:05 AM »
hi rkauer, thanks for your help, I tried to do what you said, but when I get as far as the end of step 3, it askes for the WB disk again. I insert it then remove it when its done reading. I then place the disk I want to format in to the drive and wait for the two I cons to appear, but only one shows up, and its DF0:????
If I try to format it, I con only for mat DF0: PC0 does not show up anyplace. This I did with an unedited copy of WB disk.

I checked the PC0 file as you said, the Unit field is commented with a value of 0, but I don't see an active field.

 I'm starting to think there is something else wrong with my Amiga. I'm not sure if the floppy drive thats in it is a true DD drive or a 1.44 'fixed' to work in an Amiga. I have another one sitting here, do you think if a swap it out it may help?

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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2008, 09:57:43 PM »
Those instructions have been tried pretty much exactly already.

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fidelTFG wrote: but I don't see an active field.


I think rkauer means the ACTIVATE field that you already confirmed to me was there and reading 1.

Please confirm the type of disk you are using, and if it is HD (High Density) that you have covered the HD hole using cellotape or something similar.  If in doubt, cover them both (the disk will still be writeable).

Have you been working from a backup of the WB disks?  If so, are the originals still in their virginal state?  If yes, backup a new set and try again.

Swapping the drives is worth a try, but even a "fixed" 1.44 should respond to this basic task.  Since you mention that the UNIT field in PC0 is commented out and won't respond to un-commenting, I think maybe one of these files is damaged -

SYS:Devs/DosDrivers/PC0
SYS:Devs/mfm.device
SYS:L/CrossDOSFilesystem

or maybe even some other arbitrary file.

I am determined to get to the bottom of this now!!
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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2008, 12:02:31 AM »
I'm using a DD disk with only the write protect hole. and its an original WB disk, I haven't got around to making a back up yet, I guess I should have.

I can not find crossDosFilesystem in the L draw on the Wb disk is it meant to be there of someplace else?
 

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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2008, 12:23:53 AM »
AHAAA!  I believe we have a winner.  Yes, that file should be there.

Would it be legal to supply this poor chap with said file?
How about Amigakit as the distributer emailing him a copy?
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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2008, 12:30:55 AM »
I found it, its on the Extras disk

I'm going to copy it to the Disk and see if that works.
 

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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2008, 12:31:12 AM »
A closer look at my own copy of 3.1 shows that this is not in the distro.  Was this some kind of error or omission, or is it buried elsewhere?  The 3.1 version of PC0 definitely points to L:CrossDOSFilesystem.

And now I see what you mean by the commenting out, it specifically says the Unit field is controlled by tooltypes in the PC0 icon, so ignore that bit of stuff.

EDIT - OK, you found it.
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Re: hd install.....errr yer im a noob
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2008, 12:45:54 AM »
SUCCESS :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

Well that was an endeavor and a half. Now on the next step of my original problem.

Thank you all for your help and suggestions on that one. And I'll make a note of that.
thanks you all again.