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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2008, 06:34:33 PM »
The latest release of the Linux Distribution Ubuntu, (# 8.04, Hardy Heron), is now available for download or shipment.

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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2008, 06:47:51 PM »
@Xamiche

I have downloaded the ISO of dreamlinux.
Tried the CD and wow the dock bar is a smart piece of work.
I am going to install it proper later tonight.

So far I have put a MPG4 video in it playes perfectly, MP3 perfectly this is from the CD as it stands.

I am impressed with dreamlinux so far.


It is a lot smarter than Ubuntu 7.10.
But then again I like smart apperance on any OS.

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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2008, 06:52:22 PM »
Dreamlinux can be downloaded from here.

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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2008, 06:59:32 PM »
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But hey you good Amiga people out there what would you prefer Windows or Ubuntu/Linux of some type?


I prefer Ubuntu/Linux because I can run AROS/hosted on it :-D

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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2008, 07:41:00 PM »
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Yes, he meant a large percentage of his mates used PCs for games. Personally of all the people I know, maybe one or two are serious gamers, the rest surf the net, read email and do word processing.

So, my percentage based on my peers is wrong, but your percentage based on your peers is right. Interesting. We are in fact both talking out of our arses because neither of us have any real statistics, but so long as the percentage of gamers is not zero, Windows is not an unnecessary OS. Sadly. It is not as bad as it once was, and the number of Windows games that run on Linux has grown considerably, but that does not make Gdanko's hyperbole any the more true.

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A little Dreamlinux box will do all that and not be susceptible to all the Virii that are out there.

I agree. I wonder why most people do not choose to use Linux? I think the next time I have a customer ask me to build them a new PC I will suggest they use Linux. I'd be curious how many of them will choose to use it. Give me a sales pitch I can use for Linux. :-D

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@Xamiche

I have downloaded the ISO of dreamlinux.
Tried the CD and wow the dock bar is a smart piece of work.
I am going to install it proper later tonight.

So far I have put a MPG4 video in it playes perfectly, MP3 perfectly this is from the CD as it stands.

I am impressed with dreamlinux so far.


It is a lot smarter than Ubuntu 7.10.
But then again I like smart apperance on any OS.

Mike.

Excellent. Thanks for the info. I might download it and try it out for myself. :-)
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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2008, 08:28:28 PM »
PC Game sales have been declining while the big three games boxes (Wii, PS3, XBox) have been increasing.  It appears that games players want dedicated hardware for their games.  But there still are a lot of sales, it would be interesting to know real statistics.  My nephew plays Grand Theft Auto on his PC...


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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2008, 08:47:22 PM »
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PC Game sales have been declining while the big three games boxes (Wii, PS3, XBox) have been increasing.  It appears that games players want dedicated hardware for their games.  But there still are a lot of sales, it would be interesting to know real statistics.  My nephew plays Grand Theft Auto on his PC...


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Indeed. It doesn't take much to see the decline in PC game sales. My once excellent favourite gaming store, which had  mostly PC games and a little corner for console games, is now the opposite. Mostly console games and a little corner for PC games. It's a bit like watching the VHS vs Beta struggle in the 80s. The only console I really like is the Wii (Nintendo Fanboy), mostly because it's the only exercise I get. I honestly don't see the need to buy an Xbox or PS. I have a PC.

I'm downloading DreamLinux atm. I'd be curious to see how extensive the list is of Windows games that will run under Linux. I don't think it would be good enough for a serious gamer, but it may be good enough for most of the people I build computers for. Even the Mums and Dads I build computers for ask about games. They have kids who want to play WoW or some other game. If Linux can cope with that it might be a way to shave 200 bucks of the price of a new PC for them.
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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2008, 09:49:35 PM »
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swift240 wrote:
@Xamiche

I have downloaded the ISO of dreamlinux.
Tried the CD and wow the dock bar is a smart piece of work.
I am going to install it proper later tonight.

So far I have put a MPG4 video in it playes perfectly, MP3 perfectly this is from the CD as it stands.

I am impressed with dreamlinux so far.


It is a lot smarter than Ubuntu 7.10.
But then again I like smart apperance on any OS.

Mike.
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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2008, 10:07:33 PM »
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How do you mean, smart? Smart in appearance, smart in choice of applications standardly installed, how it is installed, or smart  'just to look at'? I don't understand.[/quote]
You know how someone says, 'That suit looks smart'? That's what he means by smart. Aesthetically speaking.
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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2008, 11:25:26 PM »
I love'em both.

This will sound silly but I'm such a novice with Linux that I got all excited last week when I managed to install LAMP on Ubuntu on a VIA mini-itx box.

The other thing I like about Linux is that it allows me to use my old laptop productively, without having to dish out big bucks for a Windows installation and all the virus checking software and tools I need on Windows. I got the laptop for free at work. Now I use it to blog, surf, prepare documents for a class I'm taking...It's great.





 

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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2008, 01:25:22 AM »
Hi,

I have been using Ubuntu as my main OS for the past year now, I started with 7.05 and am now using 7.10 as my main system. Ubuntu seems real stable and easy to use, some people complain about playing movies or having problems with their TV tuners, well guess what I am using both the movie player to play movies and the TV tuner (win2000) on my Ubuntu system and all I did was downloaded them and installed them, then I did the unnatural thing and read the freakin manuals and help files, now why didn't any of these smart Amiga fans think of that!!!

Now I still use Windows XP but only for games and WinUAE from Cloanto, I wouldn't trust Windows with any of my important files like my pictures from my camera or movies and I would certainly not trust windows with my software and book databases or my checkbook program which by the way in Ubuntu is secured by scrambling. I also use Kino and open movie editor and live to edit my movies and use open office to match microbucks office.

For games I use Cedega, I know you have to pay $5.00 a month for usage, but its worth it.

Anyhow My OS's in order of usage

1. Ubuntu Main OS
2. Amiga Forever WinUAE version
3. Windows XP (games only)
4. Windows Vista (if I ever get it activated again (Eight time) What a waste of time, money and effort, not even trusted for games.

By the way my most trusted computer so far is my Amiga 4000, and Amiga 1200, haven't crashed or burned since 1992, they may be slow by todays standards but they boot in less than 10 seconds, multi-task, don't crash, no activation required, and the best -- shut off in less than a second with no Amiga shutting down screen, but I am sure some smart programmer could make a shut down screen :-)

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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2008, 01:32:26 AM »
Just downloaded Ubuntu 8.04 iso and was not watching the whole download process, but in the beginning it said it was downloading a 699mb file, but the iso file is only 289mb.

Did I get the whole thing and is it okay to burn to CD, or do I have to download it again?  The site I chose to download from was not very fast, that is why I did not monitor its progress until it was finished. :-?
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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2008, 01:41:56 AM »
Hi,

I would try downloading again, do not burn or you will waste a CD with the download you have now.


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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2008, 01:57:04 AM »
Over the past 12-18 months I've been playing with Linux: Ubuntu, Fedora, PCLInuxOS and PCUserOS ( A distro created by PCUser magazine based on ubuntu but using xfce).

No Linux distro I have tried has quite the ease-of-use, hardware support or reliability that my XPPro machine does (18 months and not one blue screen).

All Linux distro's I have used have exhibited some quirky behavior eg screen settings change on their own every time I boot, dial-up not working, selecting the firewall to start on boot but it never does and has to be manually started every time, install a 300 k emulator and have a non bootable system...

I appreciate that this may just be my system but go on the forums and have a look at the number and type of support questions:  many problems are serious and a novice would never fix them, some are simple but require you to jump through hoops to get right.

I thought PCLinuxOS was the best distro I tried, until I realized they use a "rolling upgrade": as soon as anything in the repos has a new version, you can install it.  Great except that that new thing may need to install several or even hundreds of megabytes of other updates to other things, some of which haven't been tested to work with each other.  You could, like I did, end up with a non-usable system because you just installed a 300k emulator, which installed 100 meg of "updates" that forgot to install a 55 k library that meant your GUI wouldn't come up. Try then finding the problem as to why your computer no longer starts..

Media center funtionality is another Linux no-go zone:  I did the mythTV thing and it took me nearly 6 weeks of searching, trial and error, reading copious documentation to set up.  In XPPro,I downloaded mediaportal,installed some add-ons, rebooted. I can schedule, watch, record HD TV, burn to DVD, playback DVD's from a great GUI, play NES, SNES, N64, PSone, Megadrive, Amiga games, launch PC games, all via HDMI on 42" plasma.  Total set-up time: under 3 hours.

Windows gets bagged for all the spyware and viruses, as if their existence is Microsoft's fault.  These things exist because 98% of computers use windows, and therefore the  writers of malware have a huge incentive to write malware for windows as opposed to Linux Or MacOS, both of which are not immune to malware either.  

Don't get me wrong:  Linux is very good for a free OS, but its not a Windows replacement for the average user, yet.
 

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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2008, 01:59:34 AM »
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thanos wrote:
I have switched to Ubuntu 7.10, a few months ago.

I wanted to learn a little about linux, so I installed on a second PC.  I have not even turned on my windows machine since.

I should really get around to installing on my best hardware, AM2, 2.6 Ghz, 2Gb DDR 800, ATI 3850...

My Ubuntu box, 2.0 Ghz, 2Gb DDR 400, NVIDIA 7600GS...

I don't really play any video games anymore, so I don't feel I am missing anything.


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Re: Windows or Ubuntu
« Reply #44 from previous page: April 25, 2008, 02:19:02 AM »
Hi,

I just removed my Win2000 TV card from my old computer system using winblows 2000, put it in my tri boot Linux, Windows XP and Vista system, Linux had it up and running in about 10 minutes, Windows XP needed to have new drivers downloaded for XP and then still took 2 hours to figure out how to get the sound up and running. Windows Vista crashed and burned, then after a week got a windows XP update. you know the 1-6 updates, don't know what they were because windows didn't tell me what they were but it was updating, Linux is nice it tells you first then lets you update. The worst part was that the updates in windows stopped my sound from working on my TV card. So I went back to Linux.

The only thing I keep windows XP for is for games, I wouldn't trust it as far as I could try to throw MS corp.

smerf

I make my living by MS, every body at work needs help at least once a week, if they used Ubuntu, I would be in the bread line.

They ought to change MicroSofts name to microsh_t but that wouldn't work because everybody knows they aren't micro they are one big Sh_t.



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