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Re: IBM HD's work will with the Amiga?
« Reply #14 from previous page: August 11, 2003, 02:19:41 PM »
all my hdd's are iBM , with one exception a maxtor 40gb disk, that is crap...very bad.., it overheats in this summerheat, the ibm disks have no probs at all.

(the maxtor is now resting, refused to work one day due to heat..)

i have 120gb ibm's , 80 , 40 , 46 , 20 and 10gb disks , none have been a prob in the amiga, but i must add i have always used some sort of 4way adapter and now lately i use fastata from elbox.

also, the 46gb disks and several more from ibm are the ones u should stay away from,  i mananged to fix one of em (why i have it) as my friend gave it to me as it refused to work..

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Re: IBM HD's work will with the Amiga?
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2003, 02:24:00 PM »
Bluh.  And that said, obviously, any compatibilities/incompatibilities with IBMs would have to be traced back to whatever particular (on-disk) controller wouldn't play nice, and the particular models or model line using that design.  If you compare a DFHS or something with a GXP (brought up again only because I don't know any other IBM models, heh), you may as well be comparing Quantum to Seagate - they're just utterly different, even though they're both IBMs.

Here's a thought on the issue - I picked up a certain Seagate from the era when Pentiums and x86 boards as a whole were transitioning from 5V to 3.3V signaling.  I have no idea what the IDE/ATA/UDMA spec is supposed to be, but apparently, at some point, a transition in signaling voltage was made.  There was a known problem with the (pre-UATA) Seagate, defined as incompatibilty when run on a specific newer (UATA) Intel chipset (whichever ones used the 'PIIX4'?  Ugh, been a while), because it couldn't deal properly with the reduction in voltages.  Somehow, I bet that model won't work on any other UATA controller made since, but Seagate was probably holding out hope that future chipsets would detect and go back to 5V swing for older drives... and maybe they do. :-?  Modern drives are designed to tolerate a fairly wide range of swing, so they can fall back or forward as appropriate.

So, here's a thought.  The AGA Amigas were making some transitions of their own in that department, weren't they?  Maybe?  And if not, then maybe IBM had the opposite problem on one of their drives, producing a UATA-era model that wouldn't tolerate things when placed on a 5V bus?

Of course, I'm probably totally wrong, and it's probably just  mysterious IDE retardation of the same sort that kept early Conners from sharing a channel with other manufacturers' drives.
 

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Re: IBM HD's work will with the Amiga?
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2003, 03:36:01 PM »
I have an IBM 18 Gig UW-SCSI-III in my A4000T with OS 3.9.  It works fine.  Been running 24x7 for the past year and a half.
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Re: IBM HD's work will with the Amiga?
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2003, 05:17:10 PM »
Never buy used.  I bought 3 of them and they started dying.  Otherwise if HDtoolbox or other 3rd party software from Aminet can partition them for you, you're in good shape.  However, I'd stay away from EIDE cdroms--a nightmare to configure them especially thru IDE-Fix unless you can get away with the cat-weasel interface.
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Re: IBM HD's work will with the Amiga?
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2003, 09:26:52 PM »
Thx guys. What a hell I bought it! . It's a 2.5" TravelStar with 20Gb. Let's see what it does when I have time to install it.
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Re: IBM HD's work will with the Amiga?
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2003, 10:12:15 PM »
My 40 gig ibm drive developed problems after just one year a right pile of junk .I now stick to the most reliable drives i have had which are maxtor my 120 gig has been working for about a year at about 8 hours and more a day never gets hot unlike my ibm which was like a heater.and my amigaone has a seagate 60 gig my other favorite make.
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Re: IBM HD's work will with the Amiga?
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2003, 10:22:16 PM »
IBM's SCSI ultrastar lines previous to the GXP were known for their high throughput and strong reliability.  I've been using a U166 Ultrastar (don't remember the model letters, it's the line that was immediately previous to GXP) for almost a couple years now and it's been wonderful.

The other thing that is good with IBM is they have an online setup for obtaining RMA's, and their online system can tell you whether or not a drive is still covered under warranty (with ultrastar lines, it was usually 5 years)via it's serial number.  No hours of struggling with tech support and digging around for ancient invoices just to get your damaged drive replaced.
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