Mini-Mig 2

[trekiej]

Is anyone working on a second version of minimig?
Would adding a 1 million gate chip be beneficial?
I hope xx020 cpu could be added.

[amiga_3k]

She's called Natami...

[alexh]

There is also a new FPGA board being designed by long term FPGA Guru from FPGA-Arcade. Do a search in these forums for MikeJ's posts.

[bloodline]

alexh wrote:
There is also a new FPGA board being designed by long term FPGA Guru from FPGA-Arcade. Do a search in these forums for MikeJ's posts.

FPGA-Arcade has caught my eye :-)

[trekiej]

@ alexh:
I recognise that thread.
Thanks.

[freqmax]

New Xilinx super chip :-)
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080331/aqm029a.html?.v=7

65nm Virtex-5 FPGA, 2x PowerPC 440, 32kB instruction & 32 kB data cache, SERDES, GTX High Speed Transceivers 6.5Gbps, 190 GMACs DSP performance, 384 DSP slices, 16.5 Mb of internal memory.

Supports: XAUI, Fibre Channel, SONET, Serial RapidIO, PCI Express® 1.1, 2.0, Interlaken etc..

Could be something to drool over in a minimig2..

165 USD in 1000 qty (or hit digikey..).

[trekiej]

I have heard of multi-PPC virtex fpga's before.  I am suprised I have not heard of them before in the forums.
Is there enough room for MMU?

[freqmax]

You can proberbly build a complete A4000 in plain hdl-code with it. So MMU, I think yes....

[AmiJIm]

A mini Mig solution that would interest me and most of AMiga community would be the one that will support AGA modes and has to have a compact size,like original MIni mig.
we all want to revive all bad 1200 from our childhood and play platoform on our "from future" 42 inch lcds....

[alexh]

I just bought some Virtex-5 FPGA's (for work) and I think they cost almost $16,000 a pair.

[bloodline]

freqmax wrote:
New Xilinx super chip :-)
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080331/aqm029a.html?.v=7

65nm Virtex-5 FPGA, 2x PowerPC 440, 32kB instruction & 32 kB data cache, SERDES, GTX High Speed Transceivers 6.5Gbps, 190 GMACs DSP performance, 384 DSP slices, 16.5 Mb of internal memory.

Supports: XAUI, Fibre Channel, SONET, Serial RapidIO, PCI Express® 1.1, 2.0, Interlaken etc..

Could be something to drool over in a minimig2..

165 USD in 1000 qty (or hit digikey..).

No way could anyone justify a run of a 1000 FPGA boards for the Amiga community... Also, if the FPGA costs that much, by the time we get down to the consumer level, the board will cost well over $300...

[A6000]

bloodline wrote:
No way could anyone justify a run of a 1000 FPGA boards for the Amiga community... Also, if the FPGA costs that much, by the time we get down to the consumer level, the board will cost well over $300...

OEM's may not have the capital to make 1000 boards, but if they do not believe they could sell at least 1000 boards, then why are they making any?
How many minimigs have been sold?
The people behind natami will not be happy if they only sell 200 boards.
OEM's should bite the bullet and produce them in batches of 1000.

[bloodline]

A6000 wrote:

OEM's should bite the bullet and produce them in batches of 1000.

Why should the OEM take that kind of risk? There is no way they could sell 1000 boards at $300 each... I'm having a hard time justifying the actually quite reasonable cost of a MiniMig...

[A6000]

bloodline wrote:
Why should the OEM take that kind of risk? There is no way they could sell 1000 boards at $300 each... I'm having a hard time justifying the actually quite reasonable cost of a MiniMig...

They want to make a reasonable to large profit, they cannot do that unless they sell a lot of boards, batches of 1000 gets lower component costs and enough boards to make their profit.

The high cost of a minimig is because their production quantities are too small.

[bloodline]

A6000 wrote:

bloodline wrote:
Why should the OEM take that kind of risk? There is no way they could sell 1000 boards at $300 each... I'm having a hard time justifying the actually quite reasonable cost of a MiniMig...

They want to make a reasonable to large profit, they cannot do that unless they sell a lot of boards, batches of 1000 gets lower component costs and enough boards to make their profit.

The high cost of a minimig is because their production quantities are too small.

But if they can't sell 1000, and to be realistic, they can't... then  the will lose more money than they could ever make.

Acube got it right with the MiniMig.