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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 01, 2008, 04:34:36 PM »
So,
I took off the suspect 4 memory stick, took of the FPGA and clean it and its support.
But nothing change..
I'm gonna try the DMS...
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2008, 06:39:44 PM »
That's better. :-D

I must add the utility called SetFF before setpatch:
SetFF FPU VBR Addmem

The Fastkick option is refused with kick 3.1 (I have not yet tested the latest version of SetFF).

But this time the right amount of ram appears.

I had put the other 4 mb in, it is ok I have well 8 MB.
But again at the reboot, there is nothing to do, I always got the 8000006 guru...
With a click left and it leaves, but no way to enter in early or in the FF40 menu...

@Pyree : what will you do of your card ?
That did not solve my Z2 problem... no buddha, Spectrum, Bridgeboard....
 
Under AIBB, the memory map is seen in 2 pieces independent with a priority of "+30".
The copyback works very well anyway.

But I wonder if I have the latest ROM with the FF40 ...

I will also have to solve the 040 cooling problem (which for now runs only at 22 Mhz and 40 soon if the rest can follow).
Bcause there is an hdd sca on the GVP and an sca/scsi adapter which is just at 4mm of the cpu. ..
and the CPU is already very damn hot at half speed (the hdd close ot it also )!
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2008, 10:53:57 PM »
So progress again :

The problem of invisible ZII cards come from my GVP Spectrum EGS rev1.3 / 2mb. I took it off ET VOILA !!!
All the other cards appears and works (budha and 2386).

So I decided to put newest FF software, and add them in my StartupSeq :
SetFF >NIL: PRESET           (which set MMU/FPU/VBR/Copyback on and do a kind of Blitzkick's trick with kickstart )  
MoveMH             (which put chipram TSR in Fast)

FFCache in the WBStartup.
and SetPatch v44.38 from OS3.5CD
I tried some installed software succesfully, it was ok.
AIBB now tell me that i have only 1 block of 7.4mb of FastRam on the card not 8 mb (0.6mb maybe due to kick trick and chipmem move).

But ShowConfig makes hang and reboot !!
Before I use "PRESET" (so no MMU and no kick trick), it worked ... Does it mean that my MMU is half dead or a conflict anywhere (68040 libs v36.2) ??


Then I tried, the benchmark P96Speed on 3.5CD, on NTSC mode 640x200-16 colours.
2 Tests makes crash the programm with an error 8000000002, it's :
WritePixelArray8() and WritePixelLine8().


I also notified a very annoying points :
- For 100% successfull boot, press right mouse button while powering it on.
- When you turn off the machine power and want to restart it quickly, you'll need that it get colder nor i won't boot at all...

I put a very tiny Radiator with intergred fan which was sold to me by DCE years ago. I just can fit it on half the CPU du to the SCA adapter on the GVP scsi... I can't put a bigger one.  I used silver thermal paste and the radiator, whatever it's half fitted, works very well and got hot very quickly.

If you have idea, let me know !!
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2008, 04:08:13 AM »
 You can put a small heatsink (low profile) over the 040 and use an "external" fan (one hanging from a DIY holder) just to blow fresh air toward the 'sink.

 Apart of that, try to move the SCSI controller to another Zorro slot to give more space for airflow. And take out that 2Mb memory on the GVP SCSI, it is useless and only give you slowdowns in the system.
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2008, 04:26:00 AM »
For FastKick to work with 3.1 you need the latest version 3.4 ROMs.
Going Bananas over AMIGAs since 1987...

Looking for Fusion Fourty PNG ROMs V3.4?

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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2008, 10:16:03 AM »
Hi,
I still have some strange behavior while booting...
Like the FPU option that makes hang (8000006) sometimes, and sometimes i don't turn on the MMU,
I will turn off the GVP ram, but it don't use it yet.
@TjLaser : yes I know well that, but how to check it ? There seems to have rom v3.1/3.2/3.4 of PnG roms....

I tried also on OS3.5, at first i crashed with the FPU option, then i restarted on Wb3.1 and rebooted on OS3.5 and it passed !!
I noticed that with OS3.5, SetFF 1.79 now told me well that he fastkicking the 3.1 rom. I didn't display that with WB3.1
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2008, 12:20:49 AM »
Tests of the day:
Libs v44 of P5 for 68040 -> it loses the ram and MMU
It is better to save SetFF after SetPatch for the FastKick goes well, but also to prevent 800000002 when FPU turn to on.

Tonight, I put 2 ISA 16 bits port on the mobo, turn off the ram on the GVP, put a CV64/3D to replace the Spectrum, and a VLab Y/c ..

Again, except the GVP no card viewed ...
I will check it tomorrow ...  :-?
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Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2008, 07:00:50 AM »
Hello.
I thought this tread was dead...  :-(
I will replace the heatsink on my FF, and try cleaning and reseating the socketed chips...
ATM i am working on my A500 and have not yet attempted doing anything on the a2000... Still trying to get hold of a cpu socket IDE controller... (scraping together some money at first)

@CLS2086
Nice work you have done, i will (when i get to the A2000) try to see what i can do with my Fusion Forty...
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2008, 12:44:36 PM »
Hi,
strange it didn't like my CV64/3D too. I take it, and all went right

How can i check that i have already the good PNG rom v3.4 and not PNG 3.1/3.2 ??

Do the other FF40 owner got such problems with RTG cards ??
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2008, 10:34:13 PM »
Hi,
I put new PNG rom v3.4, and it's better ! Thanks Tj.
This time, the card boot well. All the options (fastkick, FPU, mmu, ram...) are already done at the original boot, no more reboot and it's seems faster.

But i still can't use any one of my RTG cards !!
If i plug one of them, i can only see the GVP SCSI card. And when i took of the GVP, i see nothing in Z2...

Do the other FF40 owner got such problems with RTG cards ??
 :-?
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2008, 06:23:57 PM »
Sadly I don't have any ZII RTG Cards I can test in mine...

Do you have any 16-bit RAM in your 2000 at all?  (NOT the RAM on the F40 as this is 32-bit)  If you have more than 4MB in the 16-bit range you cannot use a RTG card (as it has 4MB)  Remember 8MB max on ZII bus.
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2008, 07:57:17 PM »
Hi,
I tried both solution ram on GVP scsi on (2mb) and off.
It doesn't change a lot the problem. When the FF40 is off, all is well detected...

I read again the FAQ :
http://www.lundblad.com/mattias/F40-FAQ.txt
and found :
Quote
- Piccolo/Spectrum, may need a PAL upgrade
[/b]

But how to get it ??
I wrote to some people in the FAQ, but no luck, there are no longer working.
So I wrote to Matthias Lundblad. I'll try to keep you informed.
But we may need to find some with the good "PAL" to duplicate it... If you have let me know.  :-)
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2008, 11:21:40 PM »
I received some faster quartz, Oxyron patcher, and 32 mb  :-)
I tried to put 60 and 66 Mhz, but the card reacted strangely, so i put a 55 Mhz and the card reworked correctly but still don't support my RTG cards...

I read some people got 33/35/40 Mhz models, but where is the trick ? I have a true 040/40...  :-o
There may be an another upgrade to do...
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2010, 07:03:09 PM »
Did somebody of you managed to make the Fusion Forty working with Cybervision64/3D? Or with any other RTG Card?

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Offline pyrreTopic starter

Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2016, 11:37:08 PM »
An aged old thread...
But i have found a probable reason to why the fusion forthy does not work in my amiga 2000.
My amiga 2000 is a rev. 4.0 motherboard. And most likely not compatible with any accelerator made for the cpu fast slot.

Anyone got any A2K motherboard for sale?
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Re: fusion forty problems
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2017, 10:05:49 AM »
Does anyone know why these mods are done? One of the U4 pins is bent up and U53 is removed.

https://postimg.org/image/9a446cv73/
https://postimg.org/image/h44prr2zz/

Fusion Forty does not boot at all if the fastkick is disabled (because of this modification?). Otherwise it seems to work normally.