MOS Technology buildings to be demolished!

[Nlandas]

JJ wrote:
Dont know about you lot, but I never lick any computer components  :-D  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I don't know, "Licking Silicon" can be fun.   :-o

*wink, wink* *nudge, nudge* Know what I mean? Know what I mean?

[billt]

Yeah, but wouldn't those help improve compatibility with the Minimig and/or give it a possibility of an AGA upgrade, etc?

The masks for a chip are nothing more than a stack of camera film negative-like things. In order to learn the circuit you'd have to reverse-engineer the stack (probably 20 or 30 masks per chip) together, figure out what the curtiots are and how they connect, etc. all from nothing more than a bunch of IC pictures. That's possible, but it'd be **enormously** tedious.  Then it'd help to have an understanding of timing, capacitance, etc. as to why certain things were done. This is basically the most inefficient use of one's time in improving minimig/clonea/etc. Different methods are much better use of one's time and energy. The masks, if they still exist, should be treated only as collectors items to show off to geeky friends and used for absolutely no other purpose whatsoever.

[Plaz]

Masks for processes that probably don't exist anymore

Yeah, but they would make really nice framed wall posters. :-)

Plaz

[Plaz]

@BilHerd

Welcome Bill, nice to hear from you.

strike it like a punch. You git either 5 or 6 pieces depending on silicon if I remember right.

Ah good times and good stories. Some how getting old glimpses of CBM "behind the scenes" makes retro computing even better. :-)

Plaz

[bloodline]

Plaz wrote:

Masks for processes that probably don't exist anymore

Yeah, but they would make really nice framed wall posters. :-)

Plaz

Aye, you have me there!!! :-)

[ChuckT]

Welcome Bill,

I emailed you the lawyer contact for Rockwell Automation if you wish to visit the site one more time.

Chuck

[bloodmoney]

Don't give up hope guys. I once worked at a printing shop in the mid 90s that was previously a packaging plant.
Once while rummaging thru some crates in the back of the warehouse, I found new old stock never been opened boxes of KOTEX labeled date, 1965. So never give up hope.

:lol:

 

[bloodline]

bloodmoney wrote:
Don't give up hope guys. I once worked at a printing shop in the mid 90s that was previously a packaging plant.
Once while rummaging thru some crates in the back of the warehouse, I found new old stock never been opened boxes of KOTEX labeled date, 1965. So never give up hope.

:lol:

 

Err... And... well... what did you do with them?

[Krusher]

bloodmoney wrote:
...
Once while rummaging thru some crates in the back of the warehouse, I found new old stock never been opened boxes of KOTEX labeled date, 1965. So never give up hope.

:lol:

Thanks, now I have beer all over my screen  :lol:  :-P


And welcome Bil Herd, great to see someone from ye olde times  :-D

[freqmax]

@ChuckT:
Maybe you could prepare yourself while waiting for the rockwell lawyer answer by haveing these things available for quick action if positive answer arrives:
 * Flashlight.
 * Chemical proofed working gloves (approx $10).
 * Rubber boots.
 * Carbon filter breathing protection.
 * Eye protection.
 * Plastic storage boxes (IKEA has 2$ ones).
 * Big plastic bags.
 * Digital camera.
 * Screwdriver ,flat + cross.
 * Diagonal pliers.
 * Tarpaulin (to protect the car).
 * Backpack to keep tools & finds in while searching.

I think the primary items to collect is:
 1) Documentation.
 2) Bonded chips.

:alexh@
Toxic in which way?, if this is true. Then ordinary chip will be toxic aswell when broken or "smoked". And I think GaAs wasn't used much in the end of the 1980s.

[ChuckT]

The lawyer for Rockwell got back to me and said that Rockwell doesn't own the buildings so I have to contact the EPA again to figure out who owns the buildings.  Rockwell is only doing environmental remediation.

freqmax wrote:
@ChuckT:
Maybe you could prepare yourself while waiting for the rockwell lawyer answer by haveing these things available for quick action if positive answer arrives:
 * Flashlight.
 * Chemical proofed working gloves (approx $10).
 * Rubber boots.
 * Carbon filter breathing protection.

Thank you.  I have access to bunnysuits and chemical gloves as well as masks.

[a1200]

Bill Herd is one of the scene's legends, one of those who "made it happen". Shame there wasn't that same spirit or market to create new stuff in the same ethos of days gone by....

Oh well, we have the memories and the buildin.... oh they are knocking it down lol, well we have On the Edge and pieces of history preserved in things like the Deathbed Vigil.

Anyone notice how retro Amiga and C64 stuff is slowly getting more expensive? As time goes on, I see some historical computer pieces becoming an investment. Buy it now whilst you don't need to remortgage your house to do so and who knows, when your grand children are grown up they could sell the machines and buy a house with the proceeds!

[Plaz]

Thank you. I have access to bunnysuits and chemical gloves as well as masks.

Ok this is starting to sound like an episode of "Most Haunted". Team ready, hazard suits ready, video recorders ready, thermal imager with silicon detector ready.... time to move in to the old MOS building and look for ghostly remnants of computer components. :-D

I think I'd pay money to see that adventure on DVD. Time to check the popcorn supply. :-)

Plaz

[TheMagicM]

@a1200:

you're right.. a huge legend.  If you havent bought and read "On The Edge", you're really missing out.  


IMO if you're a real Commodore / Amiga fan you should own one of these books, its just awesome to read it.  I also have Haynie's DVD pack.. those were the days.

[mike-]

Oh! don't forget, a magnetic field measuring device thingy and a Geiger counter!

A legend indeed, is it a coincidence that you turn up now that things are starting to happen?

[ChuckT]

According to Wikipedia one of the Commodore MOS buildings was bought by GMT Microelectronics and the company was liquidated so the problem would be finding the owner if the EPA doesn't get back to me since they sent me to the company doing remediation and the lawyer for the company doing remediation says it isn't their building and doesn't offer permission to enter.  Anyone here resourceful at finding the owner or giving more help?

The other ballgame would mean that there would have to be a public hearing and getting involved with local officials which would involve other scenarios before time runs out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology