What would you like to see in a new Amiga?

[HopperJF]

I feel the same but have carried on with the x000-style for power users, thus put my proposed Amiga 5000 into a tower case.

[DoogUK]

I imagine a new spec a1200.in the same wedge shape case...being able to read the old floppies and be backward compatible with 68k software.

I'd sell off the Mrs to buy it. :lol:

[alexh]

If we are talking new "classic" Amiga. Then a 100+MHz 68060, a couple of big FPGA's to implement the chipset, peripheral phy's (10/100 Ethernet MAC, USB2.0 Host, Audio Codec, SATA Phy's etc.)

If we are talking a new platform for AmigaOS, then it has to be a standard off the shelf Intel x86-64 motherboard as found in PC's.

[leirbag28]

A REAL Amiga with Custom Chips like the PS3 including a common gfx chip, and expansion port that will be exactly the same on all future released Amiga models.  COMPONENT, HDMI, S-VIDEO, RGB, VGA and COMPOSITE OUT.............All at the same Time  like the regular Amigas. Possibility to upgrade to 100gig of Memory, a SATA and IDE and SCSI ports all on the Motherboard Buffered. Built In Genlock with Manual controls embedded next to the Arrow keys. Built in ChromaKey, Built in MIDI (NOT US freakin B) 4 dedicated Joystick ports (non USB)with wireless Joysticks/Pads. a Removable MP3 player built in.  Dedicated Chips soley for Playing DVD, BlueRay, MP3, MP4, MOV, AVI, FLASH, CD+G, DIVX.

Wireless built in or at least a PCMCIA port for adding it. BlueTooth, FIREWIRE.

THis is minimum if it ever even plans to compete.

[kvasir]

After reading the thread, I've realized (again) on of the biggest assets the original classic miggy's had was its versatility. Granted, the rest of the world has more or less caught up (granted, with the resource efficiency that could be compared to how many miles/gallon a DC-10 gets compared to a moped), and like the idea of a traditional wedge shape. (I'm typing this on my 1200 :-D ) The one thing I really miss in "modern" computers is native NTSC support (or PAL, depending on where you live), and had originally set up my 1200 with a VCR to tape youtube vids, though never was able to play them. (Been playing with ffmpeg, still have a bit to learn with it) Had to change that after getting a new 1200 with a scandoubler, so the old one will be the video machine when I get it up and running. (Plus the wifes Superfrog game machine...) Anyway, I get too distracted.. What it'd like is pretty much the aforementioned stuff, like a tower Amiga on x86 hardware, along with the console wedge design (as Amiga users are pretty varied in their computing tasted, which is why the OS itself needs to be as customizable as it is.) If there's custom hardware that is needed, (OS4.0/4.1 ROMS, NTSC modulator, etc...) It could be possible to incorporate it on a PCI compatable "geek card" for x86 tower systems, and just integrated into the wedge systems motherboard. Also, compatability with whats out there is a big problem, but that's mostly a software issue. If OS4 has a WINE port, it would fix some of that.(Or maybe it already does, I'm stuck using a 060, so I live with OS3.9, and don't keep up on the OS4.0 stuff much) JAVA would be helful, too. And Firefox. The Datatypes at least would need to include popular PC file formats. (I don't know the range of OS4 datatypes, either) Anyway, I'm onto rambling now, so I'll just hit send before my 2 cents turns into 20 bucks..  :-D

[Fester]

Not interested in a new Amiga anymore.

I would have probably wanted to see a new Amiga OS run on the same hardware as my Windows XP, but WinUAE already does a good job for classic.

In the end, I would have enjoyed trying OS 4 but hardware was not available when I was ready to purchase and I'm not going to dish out money to run OS 4 on classic hardware.

Fester

[Terse]

dammy wrote:
Probably a good time to except reality that there won't be another "Amiga" as we know it.

Dammy

All people ever do here is except reality.

[Krusher]

Terse wrote:

dammy wrote:
Probably a good time to except reality that there won't be another "Amiga" as we know it.

Dammy

All people ever do here is except reality.

I live in my own reality  :-D

[smerf]

Hi,

@TDScompute,

WOW, another reasonable person at Amiga.Org, What is this
world comming too!!!

I agree with you totally, the new Amiga should just be an
OS that will run on a standard modern PC, not like with
Amiga Forever or WinUAE, but a real operating system that
boots up soon as you turn the power on. One OS that not
only could run Amiga specific software but one that could
run regular PC software to but with the ease of use like
the Amiga OS has. Just maybe even Bill McScrewup could
possibly accomplish this OS system. Lets face it PPC is
really dead, the only thing left is Intel and AMD and I
agree that one of these two processors would be great, Nvidia
leads the way in graphics cards which not even Amiga AGA
or AAA chipset could touch. I think the new QuadCore chips
would really benefit the Amiga's multi-tasking mode. As far
as Zorro slots, well lets just ship Zorro back to Mexico, he
seems to be really needed there. (Come on all my Mexican
friends it is just a joke). Anyhow agree with you totally,
its the only way a new Amiga will make the commerce scene.

smerf
 

[Tension]

this is a pointless thread.

there will never be a new Amiga.

ive been waiting since 1994 for something... anything... but in the last few months although it pains me to actually say it...  its too late... it`s over.

IT`S 2008 FOR CHRIST`S SAKE AND WE`VE HAD NOTHING FOR 14 YEARS!!

[Damion]

There definitely won't be anything new from the jokers at A-Inc (aside from more comedy), but I am interested in projects that stand a high chance of actually materializing. Developments on the minimig/clone-a type ideas will be interesting... Implementations of "classic" Amiga hardware with some modern features should be pretty fun.



 

[Tahoe]

A soul. And that's something they'll never get again.

[coldfish]

@Tahoe,

Amen brother.

[Nlandas]

TDScompute wrote:
Amiga should really be an OS that runs on industry standard hardware.

Ship with drivers for common video cards, audio, etc... and allow for new drivers to be written for new hardware very easily.
....
Amiga OS 4.1 should run on the Intel/AMD platform!

I agree 100%, the idea that what makes Amiga, amiga anymore is that it has to run on Motorola or RISC chip isn't grounded in todays reality. CISC vs. RISC isn't even really relevant anymore with the advancements of modern CPU design. I'd be happy if they went with AMD as the default supplier but there's no reason that it couldn't run on Intel too. That's just because I don't like the way Intel plays in the sandbox. If we keep choosing esoteric chips that aren't going to be readily available in the future or have their designs advanced that does us no good.

How about this -
Runs Amiga OS 4.X
PCI Express
SATA(IDE is obsolete and even optical drives are SATA now.)
USB 2.0/3.0 (Time frame?)
DDR2
ATX Form-factor(Standard now as BTC didn't catch on.)
Built on WUXGA and UXGA video.

Here's my minor twist - An emulation layer for OCS/ECS/AGA - either software or hardware depending on which offers best price performance ratio and compatibility. UAE already exists why not use it on the back end for running old software.

Then again hardware may be best, If you made this backwards compatibility depended on a PCI Express card and the OS run on standard x64 hardware then you could bundle the card with the OS. This would act as a great form of copy protection. If anyone wanted backwards compatibility they'd have to buy the card to put into their PC before they installed the OS.

Initial Accessories

Legacy user support)
USB HD Amiga compatible floppy drive(Read all old Amiga floppies)
USB Zorro III/video card cage case. (All the use of Video Toaster and other Zorro cards)


I'm just dreaming here though. Most of the new designs are RISC based and we already know the SAM440 and what Amiga, Inc. says they'll be releasing as new hardware.

I'd be happy to just have a stable platform to run AmigaOS 4.0 for less than $1000USD that isn't running on over 10 year old hardware.

-Nyle

[McVenco]

Tahoe wrote:
A soul. And that's something they'll never get again.

Sad but true. Very true.

The Amiga as a separate/independent hardware platform will never exist anymore. The only possible "new Amiga" will be an Amiga-like OS running on some standard hardware. And the "soul" in this system has to come from the community that uses it. Which, I'm sorry to say, hasn't got much soul left either apart from some people determined to at least do something for an Amiga-ish system (MorphOS, AROS).

IMHO, the classic Amiga users should be more like the Commodore 64 userscene: not having the impression that you system can compare to any modern system, but just try to get the max out of it's ancient hardware..

[AndrewBell]

after we agree on what it should have.

That doesn't seems likely to happen. Some want legacy compatibility, some want a clean break with the past.

Personally, I'd like a new machine to have the low price/high power of current AMD/Intel processors, with drivers for nVidia/ATI GPUs, fast wireless ethernet, and SATAII.

For the OS, keep it a single user system, and include a native version of VideoLAN Client, Opera, YAM, ACDSee, Nero and a cellphone application.
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