amigadave wrote:
@CBMer,
I would like to welcome you to these forums and the A.Org site, but forgive me if I do not grant you the same celebrity status... I come from the camp of Amiga users that harbored a great deal of hate and anger at Commodore's lack of "REAL" marketing
Well, there was not only some "real marketing", but actually all the more significant within the overall milieu, although I note that it's almost entirely overlooked in the general scheme of things. Or merely denied.
If you keep in mind that I came from "the user base" where I'd been very active with both marketing and professional use of Amigas, you'll realize that not only am I "one of you", but try to imagine my own frustrations and chagrins once in the fray... having to try to operate from that context.
As a matter of fact, the year prior to joining C=, I was the Graphics SIG guy for the Los Angeles Amiga Users Group (LAAUG), one of the largest in the US, and also a regular contributor to the newsletter (produced with Amigas, of course) writing articles, reviews, tutorials, etc. One of my final ones pretty sharply panned C=... and their marketing, much as you and others did and do.
I also co-founded PAX (Professional Amiga eXchange) which was a group of pro users from various industries along with a number of the Amiga products developers, software and hardware. And I'd written for a couple of the Amiga user consumer magazines of the time, about various projects, etc.
And some of us there got not only manifest wins, but even especially notable ones, in some of our respective markets. Frankly, it was these that helped keep the thing going as much as it did, despite the flopping in other areas and overall. It's an ironic albatross for some of us to have had to wear, in that light. Take a look here, for a slight indication;
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/174096756/m/338006530931/p/2I'm not seeking any celebrity status, frankly. So no prob on that count. But I'm also not interested in any scapegoat status, either, naturally.