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Offline spihunter

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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #119 from previous page: December 28, 2008, 12:05:05 AM »
@koffers,

Wow! pretty amazing man! Props for pulling it off. I knew someone would do it.

It would be nice if they would just release this for real so we could all live in peace & harmony.

This is the Amiga market so you know that will never happen....ever.
 

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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #120 on: December 28, 2008, 12:59:44 AM »
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My how to install os 4 on to a mac mini

http://macminios4.blogspot.com/

It's not an easy process but it does work. I'm sure someone can find an easier way to install it.



Great work!  It will be much more meaningful once the USB, Sound, etc. drivers are written.

The race is on!  Who will complete a usable port to the PPC MacMini, the MorphOS dev team, or the single hackers here and there that are trying to get AmigaOS4.1 ported?  Sort of an unfair race, but it sure would be nice to have both AmigaOS4.x and MorphOS2.x running on the same PPC hardware.

Too bad the AmigaOS developer team has stated that they have no intentions of releasing for/porting to the MacMini, or any other PPC Mac hardware.

Hopefully a few talented hackers will continue working on it until they succeed at making a fully functioning port happen and share it with us.
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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #121 on: December 28, 2008, 01:32:15 AM »
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sbeehre wrote:
its on the piratebay


There are many copyright violations there, do not, under any circumstances,  go there and look for AmigaOS 4.


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Or you`ll do what??

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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #122 on: December 28, 2008, 02:16:34 AM »
truly inspiring but i think both sides may be at a quagmire at this point...good stuff  though hats off to koffers for doing some of the hard work.  :crazy: to the nay sayers.
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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #123 on: December 28, 2008, 07:10:26 AM »
Not sure what is new from earlier about koffers attempt.

As long as the user has purchased his copy of the AmigaOS I personally see nothing wrong with  tweaking it for the user's choice of hardware.

 Using pirate copies of the actual OS is reprehensible.
 

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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #124 on: December 28, 2008, 09:52:12 AM »
 

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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #125 on: December 28, 2008, 02:48:39 PM »
@amigadave

what "hackers" are you talking about? The drivers released are just stolen ones, there's no "hacker" behind these drivers.

No one is going to add mac partition table support to AmigaOS, no one is going to write the nwetwork driver and no one is going to write the sound driver.

Even if you put the kickstart in other drive and the bootloader recognized the files it won't be useful without drivers.

@gaula92

If you plan to run OS4 properly you have taken the wrong route. This preliminar Mac Mini version is just a proof of concept, not a retail version. Only a handful of amiga coders are capable of writing amiga drivers and they won't waste their time with this because they are already working for AmigaOS4/MorphOS teams.

Running AmigaOS4 in cheap affordable hardware would be great and if AmigaOS4 was released for Mac Mini it would be great.

But you have to be realist: no one has the skills to do that job. Making OS4 boot on Mac Mini doesn't require any coding skills and there are key features that won't be written magically by little gnomes.

Booting OS4 on Mac Mini is different than installing it on it and making it run properly supporting network card, usb, sound...

You may be fed up of OS4 trolls but that won't make OS4 run on Mac Mini properly.

That CD will be a proof of concept until Hyperion decides to publish AmigaOS4.

Not a single developer released an OS4 BlizzardPPC SCSI driver and you can bet most of BlizzardPPC owners would have loved that. How can you expect they add Mac partition support + Sound + USB2 + Network + Wireless? You are dreaming.

BTW, I'm not against people booting this "OS4 demo", I simply don't agree with loonies who think drivers will be written magically by little green creatures.

Even if you made this "OS4 demo" work with some OS4.1 files you would still have the problems I have described.

Buying a non-supported computer to run AmigaOS4 is not exactly a clever decission if you really want to use OS4 for something else than saying "look! I have boot this bizarre OS on my Mac Mini! I can't do anything useful with it and I love that!"

On the other hand you'll be able to run MorphOS properly because it will be supported.

Buying a Mac Mini to run this unofficial OS4 version sounds like buying an A1 to run MOL  :lol:
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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #126 on: December 28, 2008, 04:28:40 PM »
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Buying a non-supported computer to run AmigaOS4 is not exactly a clever decission if you really want to use OS4 for something else than saying "look! I have boot this bizarre OS on my Mac Mini! I can't do anything useful with it and I love that!"

You make it sound as if this is somehow different than using OS4 on an A1 or a SAM.
 

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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #127 on: December 28, 2008, 04:37:39 PM »
@jorkany

some people just like challenges, it gives some spice probably. :)

Just like some australian guy who prefers crashing shogo/heretic2 every 2 minutes on his SAM rather than running them correctly (as well as they can run, that is) on the blue b*stard OS. :)

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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #128 on: December 28, 2008, 07:52:19 PM »
This is just a joke, wait for morphos and leave this kind of silly jokes.

Sometimes appear new user telling that they have os4 on his macmini... no comments
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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #129 on: December 28, 2008, 09:09:22 PM »
ok, I'll write the needed drivers as soon as I buy mac mini. assembly language can't be that hard, esp. with 'reduced instruction set' and all..   :-D
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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #130 on: December 28, 2008, 09:26:10 PM »
So it was the graphics drivers after all :-P

Hyperion have decided not to support mac ppcs but I think the hole thing has been overshadowed by moana. Long before moana appeared Amiga users were hopeing for a Mac port.

@Crumb -Come on youve had a hole year to PLAY with this -some people have only got round Playing with it on there macs.
 

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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #131 on: December 29, 2008, 12:06:57 AM »
@orange

That would be fun and challanging, bet it could be done, but are the necessary docs even public ? (And that's really a question I'm asking, I don't really know...)
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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #132 on: December 29, 2008, 02:34:22 PM »
I install os 4 on my mac mini as a technical challenge and to get the look and feel of what os 4 is.

The lack of drivers doesn't help you get the true feeling of os4 but its far cheaper then spending a lot of money on a sam board.

And people don't which programmers might want to take on the technical challenge of doing something different and write some driver.  
 

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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #133 on: December 29, 2008, 03:09:43 PM »
Dudes, can someone quickly summarize some facts here ?

1. Does OS4 boot up (not just the "kickstart-hand") ?
2. What works, and what doesn't work ?

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Re: Mac mini Os4
« Reply #134 on: December 29, 2008, 03:40:22 PM »
Yes OS4 does boot or at least  it did for me http://macminios4.blogspot.com/2008/12/install-os-4-on-to-mac-mini-how-to.html

The graphics driver works, programs load and install.

The usb keyboard and mouse work you have to plug the usb mouse in to the back of the computer and not in to the keyboard or the keyboard won't work.

What doesn't work is the sound, USB, Network.