Amiga INC Announcing OS5.0 at CES in Las Vegas next week!

[motorollin]

TheMagicM wrote:

Though I challenge anyone to use Linux as their main OS and never have to go under the bonnet.

I challenge you to do the same w/the outdated OS the Amiga runs on now.  The Amiga OS as it is is comprised of hacks/kludges on top of a very old operating system.  

I never said you didn't have to do this with the Amiga. In fact, I agreed that it was entirely possible (and fun). There's no way I would want to use Amiga OS without any hacking/patching.

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moto

[Speelgoedmannetje]

L.O.L.
OS5, it comes out when Hell melts... :lol:

[downix]

Not to sound like a wacko but what is the difference between Apple and M$ business model??

Apple is about dominating on their own systems.  Microsoft is about forcing other companies to bend to their will and dominate other companies systems.

Apple is not a monopoly for it cannot dominate the marketplace of system vendors so long as it only controls a system it makes.  That is the key difference.  Don't like Apples systems, buy from someone else.  Don't like Microsofts system, well, meet the Windows tax and the bs that goes with it.

[Nlandas]

Back on topic - AmigaOS 5 is AmigaAnywhere 2

Reghardware on AmigaOS 5

So it will apparently run Workbench and all apps in a layer over top of another OS. So is custom chipset emulation possible as well? If so it could be interesting to run it on new hardware. I'd hope that they'd work with VMWare to be able to run it without another host OS though I guess we could run it over a little Linux Kernal.

[Tripitaka]

@ Nlandas

We all expected that one I think.  :cry:

I'm looking for AInc to die aout now. .... :madashell:
My hopes must now lie with Hyperion for a real Amiga OS, at least they whant it to live.

Ainc. =  :horse:

[downix]

Nlandas wrote:
Back on topic - AmigaOS 5 is AmigaAnywhere 2

Reghardware on AmigaOS 5

So it will apparently run Workbench and all apps in a layer over top of another OS. So is custom chipset emulation possible as well? If so it could be interesting to run it on new hardware. I'd hope that they'd work with VMWare to be able to run it without another host OS though I guess we could run it over a little Linux Kernal.

What Workbench?  This is a whole new OS, no compat with the classic is involved.

[Tripitaka]

If they show us a "better than OS4" Workbench, I might be impressed.

We will see...

[Nlandas]

downix wrote:

Nlandas wrote:
Back on topic - AmigaOS 5 is AmigaAnywhere 2

Reghardware on AmigaOS 5

So it will apparently run Workbench and all apps in a layer over top of another

What Workbench?  This is a whole new OS, no compat with the classic is involved.

Well I haven't used AmigaAnywhere myself but "The point for AmigaOS buffs is that AmigaAnywhere 2 effectively starts up a virtual machine, boots AmigaOS and runs the code on top of that. And that makes it perfectly possible for Amiga lovers to fire it up and run the familiar Amiga GUI instead of the game." According to the article this is the AmigaOS kernel running over a host OS and Workbench could be run on top of it.

If this is the case, then I'm a little confused why none of us seem to be Interested in new RISC hardware running AmigaAnywhere with an enhanced AmigaOS GUI. I guess my only concern is custom chipset emulation so I can run most of my old software while I wait for new. We all know there needs to be a clean break at some point - Dave Haynie even wanted a break from the old custom chips the last I read him on the groups when C= went belly up.

So IF, big IF, Amiga Inc could actually release a new RISC based board with modern hardware, with a small preboot kernel that then loaded up AmigaAnywhere and the AmigaGUI and added some emulation layer for older applications - No one is interested? Will we all only accept a classic Amiga clone running an updated classic AmigaOS? I for one would be happy to have a new platform out even if it's not 100% classic Amiga, if it has any of the original Amiga flair I'd love to see it on the market.

[Tripitaka]

I agree..... but I whant to see it. The Workbench should be at least as good as OS4 in order to convince amiga users that the product is wothwhile. If this is not the case then what advantage over UAE is there?

[Fester]

Argo wrote:
Wow, this has gone sooo off topic.

This thread is now this thread. :-)

[Nlandas]

Tripitaka wrote:
I agree..... but I whant to see it. The Workbench should be at least as good as OS4 in order to convince amiga users that the product is wothwhile. If this is not the case then what advantage over UAE is there?

We are in 100% agreement. If it's WB 3.1 then it's a step backwards but if you think about it - why would OS 4.0 be delaying their release of a new OS/hardware - unless they want to use the new workbench over their "retargetable" OS Kernel.

[Tripitaka]

So I guess that leaves us with that infamous court case again.  :crazy:  ARGH!  :crazy:

[Nlandas]

Tripitaka wrote:
So I guess that leaves us with that infamous court case again.  :crazy:  ARGH!  :crazy:

Doesn't the court case amounts to is Amiga Inc(KMOS) saying, thanks we'll pay you for what you've done - now we'll take it from here. I mean after all, they probably want OS 4 for classic to be the last classic run directly on the old classic hardware, albeit with PPC, OS released.

From now on, they'll want new development to take place on their new "retragetable" platform.

[Tripitaka]

Nlandas wrote:

Doesn't the court case amounts to is Amiga Inc(KMOS) saying, thanks we'll pay you for what you've done - now we'll take it from here.

I think that's down to the courts now. Hyperion would not agree with your view I am sure.

However it turns out I would just like to see some movement in our somewhat stagnated platform.

[persia]

Ultimately it's Acer's call since they own the IP, Amiga Inc only has license to the IP...

Amiga Inc, the next SCO...

[Kaminari]

It was clear from the beginning (a long time ago, in a galaxy far away) that OS4 by Hyperion and OS5 by AI would be two completely different products. As I remember it, "OS5" is not compatible with AmigaOS (1-4) at all, and it runs on its own dedicated hardware (read: standard PCs and mobiles).