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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2007, 05:23:18 PM »
he/she say:

"Main installation takes about 5 minutes and installs effortlessly. This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware and there is
not a breach of copyright. This is a fully working version."

hence is illegal.

 

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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2007, 05:24:25 PM »
Read it again:

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This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware and there is not a breach of copyright. This is a fully working version.


How does that read?
 

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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2007, 05:51:31 PM »
I wrote to the seller and pointed out that OS3.9 is NOT shareware/freeware, and he replied that it is, because the webpage he quotes in the ad states that it is.

Very lame and stupid IMO.  I don't know if the CD he is selling is a copy or legit, but he believes that OS3.9 is shareware/freeware, so there is nothing in his mind to stop him from copying it and selling the copies.
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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2007, 06:24:44 PM »
I eat my previous post:

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Hi. I don´t know what´s your problem. As I said this version is shareware/freeware. The Amiga dealers sell this update without any problems and all are copies.

amigakit

You can go and complain to amigakit.com which sells the update at 34.65 inside a plastic bag. I am sure that a firm as important as this one know all about breaches of copyright. Please do contact them and complain.

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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2007, 07:27:16 PM »
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LoadWB wrote:
Read it again:

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This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware and there is not a breach of copyright. This is a fully working version.


How does that read?



Oops. I must have missed that part.  I guess he is sellig illegal copies.  (And I HIGHLY doubt AmigaKit is selling copies as he states.)
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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2007, 07:30:17 PM »
I bet a call from Bill will change his mind...

[EDIT]: He's currently not selling any items...
 

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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2007, 09:11:32 PM »
Here is the latest response from the "Pirate" eBay seller.

"Dear amigadave,

AMIGA OS.3.9 UPDATE SHAREWARE/FREEWARE ISSUES

AmigaOS 3.9 is a Software-only Update w/o ROMs. (However, it needs Kickstart 3.1 ROMs to operate!)

AmigaOS 3.9 is the Update for OS 3.5--but it can also be installed directly on top of an OS 3.1 system.

http://www.haage-partner.de/amiga/aos39/aos39features-e.htm

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According to: http://www.gregdonner.org/os39review/os39review.html

the OS.3.9 is an upgrade and it is "shareware/freeware".

amigakit.com and other Amiga dealers it is selling the same upgrade of the OS.3.9
at 34.65 pounds and comes in a plastic bag.

On this update version there is not any breach of copyright, unlike the OS.3.5 which was a full
installation program which was copyrighted."

And here is my response:

Look at what you yourself have already written and/or copied.  3.9 can be installed over 3.5, or 3.1 and according to what you wrote installed to a blank hard drive.  Therefore it must contain the contents of OS3.1 and 3.5 which are copyrighted IP, or are you now saying that they are shareware/freeware too?  OS3.9 is NOT shareware/freeware, but it does INCLUDE some shareware/freeware programs as part of its contents.  AmigaKit is not copying and making their own 3.9 CDROMs to sell.  It is illegal!

I doubt my response will change anything, this seller does not care that it is illegal to copy OS3.9 and sell it.
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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2007, 09:32:21 PM »
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I bet a call from Bill will change his mind...

[EDIT]: He's currently not selling any items...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280178270875

that one is with a.org logo
too lazy to use shift key properly...
 

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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2007, 10:19:08 PM »
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Chain wrote:
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LoadWB wrote:
I bet a call from Bill will change his mind...

[EDIT]: He's currently not selling any items...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280178270875

that one is with a.org logo


WTF??

Off to PM Wayne..

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Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2007, 10:57:32 PM »
That looks like a fake from a mile away, especially so when you compare it against a real one.  
 

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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2007, 11:13:19 PM »
Didn't have anything when I looked earlier.  What a jack-@$$.

I hope Wayne files a complaint with eBay for using the AO logo.

On top of that, he says that there's 700 disks on one CD, 750 on the other... ummmmm, at there really 1450 Amiga games released PD?  Or give him the benefit of the doubt and say that, on average, Amiga games came on two disks, that's still 725 games supposedly released PD... does that sound right??

I'm tempted to buy one of these sets just to report him to the current IP owners of non-PD games.  Think Psygnosis: I'm sure Sony would be happy to put a slap-down.

[EDIT]: When I click on the link for seller's other items, it shows up that the seller has no items for auction.  Anyone else see this??
 

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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2007, 11:35:34 PM »
It looks like the original disk to me.
The guy must not know what amigaOS is but selling it anyway.
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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2007, 12:06:18 AM »
One of his buyers says he "did not expect a copy" but was happy, anyway.  Lends credence to his sliminess.
 

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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2007, 12:23:58 AM »
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Didn't have anything when I looked earlier.  What a jack-@$$.

I hope Wayne files a complaint with eBay for using the AO logo.

On top of that, he says that there's 700 disks on one CD, 750 on the other... ummmmm, at there really 1450 Amiga games released PD?  Or give him the benefit of the doubt and say that, on average, Amiga games came on two disks, that's still 725 games supposedly released PD... does that sound right??

I'm tempted to buy one of these sets just to report him to the current IP owners of non-PD games.  Think Psygnosis: I'm sure Sony would be happy to put a slap-down.

[EDIT]: When I click on the link for seller's other items, it shows up that the seller has no items for auction.  Anyone else see this??


Could be that someone reading (and writing) in this thread has reported that new auction for possible copyright infringement.  I wonder who would do such a thing?  :roll:

I am sure that if you looked long enough and hard enough (Fred Fish) you could find that number of PD games, but do you really want to play that many PD games? :-D
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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2007, 01:02:40 AM »
Does anyone know if AmigaKit is copying and selling OS3.9 just as this eBay pirate is claiming, or do they have a license from Amiga Inc. to copy and sell OS3.9 with AmigaKit labels on the CD and/or Emergency Floppy disk?

AmigaKit, please clear this up for us.
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Re: This version of OS.v.3.9 is shareware/freeware (WTF?!)
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 29, 2007, 02:07:24 AM »
The text on the CD even says:

"All rights of the producer and of the owner of the recorded work reserved. Unorthorized copying, reproduction, hiring, lending, public performance and broardcasting of the recording prohibited".

And hes printing them off!