The Best Amiga Computer Is An A3000?

[Zac67]

alexh wrote:

Did you know the A3000+ didn't have a scandoubler either?

Duh! You're absolutely right - never noticed that.

Then it's obviously the A4000T - best non-expanded, in expandability, one of the best in looks.

[zhulien]

A1200 is best because it's small and the exandability is not bad (as you can see http://zhulien.kicks-ass.net/pics/a1200/).  A4000 if you like big boxes (http://zhulien.kicks-ass.net/pics/a4000/)...

[TjLaZer]

If the only selling point to the A3000 being the best Amiga is the built in scan doubler and being pretty then I would have to side with Doomy and say the A2000 series is actually the BEST computer since it looked great and you could buy C='s own A2320 amber card!  :cheers:

But in reality I much prefer the A4000 series computers.  Why?  It has AGA, it has most what the A3000 has (32 bit Z3, CPU Fast slot) plus industry standard SIMM slots, Buster 9/11, built in IDE!, and standard High Density floppy drive.  SCSI can be added by C='s own A4091 card if you will.  A scan doubler can be added as well via a graphics card, or internal or external card. (The only negative I can see, should of came from the factory)  What commodore should of done was release an updated amber scan doubler card for the A4000 out the box.  The SCSI I can see selling separately since it came with IDE and not everyone might of had a need for fast SCSI devices.

[Gwion]

OMG what a fuss over nothing all the guy wants to know is if he should  get the A3000 or not and if its worth it.

In my opinion Yes get it as it look great
(who cares about hardware)
Oops here comes another argument

[amiga92570]

The 3000 also had HD 1.76mb drives. I have high density drives in all my 3000's. I think if the price is right, grag the 3000. You can always pick up a nice 1200 for aga. Software hut and amigakit have 1200's, and software hut has some with accelerators on there web site right now.

[KThunder]

my vote goes to the 3000 for productivity and 1200 for everything else. ive owned both. the 1200 had great tv output but looked like crap on monitor even multisync ones. the 4000 would be similar i assume

the scan doubler flicker fixer in the 3000 is so good it is tough to ignore. just search the postings for people begging for one for their 1200s or 4000s

the big thing ive had against the 4000(t) is that it is so freaking expensive. for a base 4000(t) you can usually get a 3000(t) with a video card negating some of the loss of aga. many games had aga and ecs versions not all but many

one plus for the 1200 was compatability though. it ran everything i threw at it. the 3000 wouldnt run some stuff including some games

[amigadave]

Homer wrote:
Anyway, the best Amiga is MY Amiga  :lol:

I like this reply the best :lol:

But as a collector and owner of almost every model ever made (can't pry that A3500T from it's owners hands), I think I like the A4000D in an after-market tower case the best.  AGA, lots of slots, including 2 video slots, has the external floppy port that my A4000T does not have, has my CSPPC w/128mb RAM installed, room for CDRW, ZIP, HD Floppy, and several HDs. I just wish my PowerTower had a bigger PSU, I am afraid that with all Zorro and ISA slots filled and 6 or 7 internal devices installed I might be maxing out the current 200 watt PSU.

[TjLaZer]

The 3000 also had HD 1.76mb drives. I have high density drives in all my 3000's.

They did not come standard though.  I have yet to see a A3000 with a HD drive installed on ebay, that all are 880k.  Can it be added?  Yes. Even the A500/2000's can have a HD drive added (with OS 2.x + of course)

[hamtronix]

The absolute BEST Amiga copmuter is the one you are sitting in front of!

[TjLaZer]

True true.

I actually like them ALL!  I own all of them except the CDTV and A4000T.  They are all great.

[amiga92570]

TjLaZer wrote:

The 3000 also had HD 1.76mb drives. I have high density drives in all my 3000's.

They did not come standard though.  I have yet to see a A3000 with a HD drive installed on ebay, that all are 880k.  Can it be added?  Yes. Even the A500/2000's can have a HD drive added (with OS 2.x + of course)

Yes they can be added, but the 3000 was offered standard with the HD drive. I am not choosing sides here, I own all amiga models and like them all. I just state the truth.  :-) There is nothing other than aga and ide as opposed to SCSI on the 3000 that is different hardware wise. OH, except for the built in scandoubler/flicker fixer of the 3000. :-o

I like this Thread! :-D

[amiga92570]

Oh, I did not notice TjLaZer Wrote he did not see one 3000 on Ebay with 1.76 drive. I must be mistaken.  :roflmao:

[amigadave]

TjLaZer wrote:

The 3000 also had HD 1.76mb drives. I have high density drives in all my 3000's.

They did not come standard though.  I have yet to see a A3000 with a HD drive installed on ebay, that all are 880k.  Can it be added?  Yes. Even the A500/2000's can have a HD drive added (with OS 2.x + of course)

The reason you don't see any installed in an A3000 on eBay is because the 1.76mb Floppy is such a highly sought item on its own it is always removed and kept, or sold separately.  I have seen them go for insane prices on eBay (for more money than an A500 or A1000 that is complete sometimes).  Specially the ones with the A3000 style button.

I have two or three HD floppy drives for my A3000s, but one is a little flaky at times and none of them are going to be sold (they are mine and you can't have them  :-D ).

I would wager that the A3000 is probably the favorite Amiga in the USA and the A1200 is the favorite in the UK and other EU countries for these reasons:

The Amiga started dying out in the USA sooner than in Europe (except in video studios), Amiga UK was still profitable when Commodore went bust.  The A4000 and A1200 were too little too late in the minds of many USA users (probably most users worldwide), and most Amiga software at the time the USA Amiga popularity started to decline was ECS, not AGA.  I would assume that the number of A1200s sold in the USA pre Commodore bankruptcy is a small fraction of how many were sold in Europe.  I also believe that the majority of Amiga AGA software (specially games) that exist are PAL only and therefore are not as desirable in the USA.  All of these reasons are just my perception and I don't claim that they are based on any facts.

Like many others have written, all Amiga computers are great and the best Amiga is the one in your own home.

[amiga92570]

I think Amigadave hit the nail on the head! :smack:

[Acill]

HammerD wrote:
@Acill

Why do you think the A4000-CR is worse than the normal Revision B A4000?

The CR model adds:

-Lithium coin-type battery (no leakage)
-header for external battery
-on some models, on-board 030 and socket for FPU
(C= shipped an A4000/LC040 that had A3640 and no 030 onboard - I know I have one
-on board chip ram (you can argue this either way, good or bad)
-Revision 11 buster standard

So I would say the A4000-CR is actually a better board than a normal A4000 Rev. B.

Why? because everything is soldered into place, it makes it near impossible to replace anything if it goes wrong, and in most cases I have seen people end up getting a new motherboard in the end.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

amigadave wrote:

Like many others have written, all Amiga computers are great and the best Amiga is the one in your own home.

Which of the four? :-D