What happened the Poseidon author?

[_PAB_]

@Piru:
> Just try using IBrowse for 4 days.

This is not, what I consider "real life", sorry... :-)

[JosephC]

Then try running Amirc for 4 days and chat with lots of ppl on lots of channels.  The improvement will be bloody obvious.

[Piru]

@PAB

Not everyone is rebooting every 5 minutes.

[mike-]

I refer to my previous, moderated comment.

[little]

@PAB

If you do not find it useful then why the hell do you use it? if you do not use it why the hell do you whine about it? Bottom line, get a life! Still better, get a PC.

[countzero]

Piru, I see you're still around but your page is still closed. Do you have contact with chris ? Is there something the 'community' can do to end this mess ? Do you have any plans to resume developing or at least offer the developed software by you (blizkick, exec44) under any circumstances ?

[Trev]

@PAB

I wrote, that in real live it seems not to have a dramatic impact.

Even if that were the case--and without knowing your test methods, I can't see how you arrived at that conclusion--not everything has to be beneficial to everyone 100% of the time. Even if Chris' project weren't meant for general purpose use, it would still certainly have value in cases with high memory allocation/deallocation incidence rates.

Anyhow, both you and Chris are being silly. And I'm being silly by commenting about it. And all of us are being silly for supporting a dead platform. But for better or worse, Amigas are fun.

[JosephC]

If we could get PAB to stop harassing Chris then I am sure Chris and TLSFmem would return.

[ChrisH]

@PAB who said

> Just try using IBrowse for 4 days.

This is not, what I consider "real life", sorry...

Ummm, I doubt that it was meant as a "real life" test, but rather as a simple test method.

In "real life" you will be starting & stopping lots of programs, and pretty soon memory will become fragmented and slow.  If you only run one program, then TLSFmem (and multi-tasking) are not for you.


BTW, I can guarantee you that fast memory allocators *will* make massive speed differences to programs that allocate lots of (small) memory blocks.  Case in point:  My FolderSync program (very old version on the Aminet) ran *70* faster when I replaced the standard memory allocation routines with my own fast memory system.

Why did it run 70 times faster?  Because it was highly optimised (at scanning & comparing folders), runs without user intervention (to slow it down), and allocates several memory blocks for every file/folder it sees.  The upshot of which is that OS3's appallingly antiquated memory system consumed 99% of the processing time!

[Pyromania]

If Chris really wants to leave the Amiga market forever, DiscreetFX would be glad to take this project over (USB Stack), update it and make it available again. Maybe the source code will help us create a Firewire stack as well.

[_PAB_]

@Piru:
'real life' is not rebooting every 5 mins but also not to keep the computer on (including all apps) for 4 days - at least not for the majority of the people.

@all:
I would be really glad, if someone would please notice that I:
a) was not whining.
b) was not harrasing anyone.
c) do see a difference between 5 mins and 4 days.
d) turn my computer off during the nights in my "real life".
e) don't care if you like to leave it on, but STOP thinking, that anyone else supposed to act in the same way.
f) was only stating, that the difference is not dramatic (not dramatically negative, nor dramatically positive) in 'real life'.

BTW: Chris closing his website has nothing to do with me, but with Amiga-News.de not willing to post his personal accusations (on anyone) on their front page (any more).

FULL STOP from my side, I've said everything that a person with a free mind needs to draw it's own free conclusions without prejudice.

[alexh]

Pyromania wrote:
If Chris really wants to leave the Amiga market forever, DiscreetFX would be glad to take this project over (USB Stack), update it and make it available again.

I hope Chris is not leaving. But if he is and if he was interested in selling, I'd imagine you'd have to pay big for it. It's a commercial USB host stack product. At least five figures.

[Piru]

@PAB

If you actively use your amiga for say 8 hours a day, the memory will get fragmented. Naturally this depends on the programs you use, but it does happen in real life (unless of course your amiga sits idle, doing nothing). For example active user (posting to a.org a lot for example) can easily get system crawling by using IBrowse for couple of hours.

If this doesn't qualify as "real life" I don't know what does.

[stopthegop]

unless of course your amiga sits idle, doing nothing

Speaking of doing nothing, why is it that when my PC is just sitting there - doing nothing.. no apps running, not touching the thing at all -- I can observe the HD light flashing AND the network LEDs flashing?  What is it doing?  This happens on my Linux box, but mostly I see this on Windows installs.  This doesn't happen on my Amiga.  

[CLS2086]

The 'Firewire stack' or the bluetooth one need a licence of $50,000 to be released...

[Trev]

Are you sure about those licensing costs? I know Apple (FireWire), Sony (i.LINK), and others charge licensing fees for their reference implementations and trademarks, but I was under the impression that IEEE-1394 and it's derivatives were open standards. I believe the same may be true of Bluetooth; however, to advertise your product as Bluetooth-compatiable, you'd have to license the name.