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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2007, 03:54:22 AM »
XP "Stable and Efficient"??  


Stable is a relative term.  The Queen Mary is also stable.  But to suggest that XP (or the Queen Mary) is 'efficient' is a perversion of the language.  I'm trying to think of something (anything) more inefficient than XP..  The only thing that comes to mind is... Vista.
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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2007, 07:23:58 PM »
Why are you guys spamming out sollutions, when the guy hasn't even described the problem properly? ;-)

Seriously, though, Windows XP x64 is rock solid (it should be, it's based on Windows 2003 server), and most, if not all 32-bit applications run fine. It can be hard to find drivers sometimes, but it's generally not a problem for anyone with a strong Google-fu.

When it comes to performance, I find a well-tweaked Windows XP install to be somewhat faster than the common Linux distributions' (Ubuntu, Mandriva, etc.) standard installations. I wouldn't compare a fully tweaked Linux system to a fully tweaked XP system, as those distros usually are designed for a specific purpose.

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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2007, 08:01:00 PM »
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Short of this, it's a reinstall.


Actually, add 7) Use registry cleaning utilities and generally familiarise yourself with the registry. My sister had a Win 2k system running pretty well for 4 years before switching to XP and it was loaded with apps to hell and back.
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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2007, 08:02:52 PM »
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Agreed. I was having performance problems with my laptop until I removed McAfee Security Suite and replaced it with the free Virus Checker "AVG". The speed increase was amazing. I don't know what McAfee was doing in the background, but it was cripling my machine.


And BitDefender is even faster, it's the fastest I've ever used.
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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #48 on: November 21, 2007, 08:04:53 PM »
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Most stuff I've tried RUNS on it. Just very little is OPTIMIZED for it. 32-bit apps behave about the same as they do on regular 32-bit XP. The benchmarks say it's slightly slower than 32-bit XP for 32-bit apps, but, honestly, I don't think it's enough to be visible to humans. If you have the 64-bit proc, you might as well run the 64-bit OS for it.


The only problems arise when there's no x64 driver for some hardware you may have (haven't had this problem, personally, it usually arises when you use legacy hardware) and when you want to use things like Directory Opus in explorer replacement mode, it has quite a few issues, since it's 32 bit.
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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2007, 08:10:37 PM »
My two cents : Norton = Yuk.

Seriously, my Dads brand new work laptop with Norton on takes ~ 25 mins to fully boot.

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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2007, 08:25:11 PM »
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Why are you guys spamming out sollutions, when the guy hasn't even described the problem properly? ;-)


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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2007, 02:18:39 AM »
Well, perhaps 'efficient' is stretching things a little...

However the point remains that the XP kernel is actually very stable, yet it requires a third party tool such as nLite (to strip away all the excess bloat) for this to becomes truly apparent.

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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2007, 02:35:59 AM »
Look I am just going to say it to you folks, keeping windows up and running nicely isn't that hard, whether it's XP or Vista.. Many people do it, that's why it's in so much use (not because the company has a monopoly). People don't use bad products. period. They disappear fast from the market.

I own many PCs, a few Macs, a few Amigas and a few Linux boxes.  I don't have viruses or malware slowing down my machines period.. This isn't rocket science or hard labor..

There are Mac people here and a few Linux enthusiasts that would have you think there machines are without their own challeneges and hurdles and that's simply not true.

A lot of Amiga users in the classic days HATED CLI/SHELL and couldn't even learn to use it.. I heard many users come into the dealership (if you can remember those days) and say it was much harder than DOS (which always left me speechless)..

Your computer will work fine if you avoid sites that have malware (that's most porn sites by the way) and p2p sharing and illegal download sites..

If your computer is running slow check out Windows Defender, Ad-Aware, and others. For all the complaints about Vista I don't hear anyone complaining about viruses or malware on it, most of that is thanks to IE protected mode which runs the web browser in a sandbox and keeps the rest of the machine separated from things running in it. Other operating systems and browsers that I know of don't even come near that level of protection..

Simple maintainance is all required to keep XP happy and running fast.. Vista takes even less time.. I have been using it for over a year..

For the person earlier on the thread, X64 drivers aren't really a problem anymore, most everyone has them.. If you need help locating any of them just PM me..
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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2007, 02:40:36 AM »
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Just for yet another two cent worth - If you are using Norton, that will slow you more than any other single program. Use AVG, it's better, and does NOT bog down the machine.
Spyware is another problem. Use Spyware Blaster, and Spybot Search & destroy. These two programs can help keep you running up to speed. TweakNow RegCleaner is about the best Registry cleaner I have found - & it's free.
Other than that, just watch what you install.
I'm running XP home/ SP2 on a Biostar mobo, with an old AMD 3200 64 CPU, with 2Gb RAM, 256Mb ATI 850 graphics card - and it is faster than you would believe.


Yes! Even before I read this reply, I figured out that it is Norton that is the culprit in slowing down my Dell XPS 700.  I have used AVG in the past and I'm not sure why I chose to spend the money on the Norton Suite.  Do I really need all the other TweakNow, RegCleaner, Spyware Blaster and Spybot?  If I use AVG and either ZoneAlarm free or Sunbelt Full on sale now for $9.95.
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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2007, 03:37:40 AM »
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Look I am just going to say it to you folks, keeping windows up and running nicely isn't that hard, whether it's XP or Vista.. Many people do it, that's why it's in so much use (not because the company has a monopoly). People don't use bad products. period. They disappear fast from the market.



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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2007, 10:42:26 AM »
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This thread is hilarious because it demonstrates just how bad windoze really is.  

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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2007, 11:12:36 AM »
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Why are you guys spamming out sollutions, when the guy hasn't even described the problem properly? ;-)


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I'll never learn that language to perfection. I keep harrasing our customers until they speak properly. ;-)
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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2007, 11:21:20 AM »
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Just for yet another two cent worth - If you are using Norton, that will slow you more than any other single program. Use AVG, it's better, and does NOT bog down the machine.
Spyware is another problem. Use Spyware Blaster, and Spybot Search & destroy. These two programs can help keep you running up to speed. TweakNow RegCleaner is about the best Registry cleaner I have found - & it's free.
Other than that, just watch what you install.
I'm running XP home/ SP2 on a Biostar mobo, with an old AMD 3200 64 CPU, with 2Gb RAM, 256Mb ATI 850 graphics card - and it is faster than you would believe.


Yes! Even before I read this reply, I figured out that it is Norton that is the culprit in slowing down my Dell XPS 700.  I have used AVG in the past and I'm not sure why I chose to spend the money on the Norton Suite.  Do I really need all the other TweakNow, RegCleaner, Spyware Blaster and Spybot?  If I use AVG and either ZoneAlarm free or Sunbelt Full on sale now for $9.95.

Seriously, Dude, why even bother to use an AV-application.
The XPS is made as a lean, mean gaming monster, not a computer for day-to-day use.
Get a proper router, and hide behind NAT instead. :-)
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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2007, 12:59:45 PM »
Format and reinstall to solve the problem.

Then:

After installing core softwares that you always use. Take a full backup. I mean ghost image of the hardware. You may use Norton Ghost.

As a protection:
- Do not use Norton Anivirus or Systemworks
- Do not use Internet Explorer
- Do not use Kazaa or Emula or smiliar P2P sowftware
- Use thrustworthy antivirus and spy detector softwares.
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Re: XP Pro .......S...L...O...W...!
« Reply #59 from previous page: November 22, 2007, 02:05:25 PM »
I think I have the solution for all of your XP problems:

http://www.linux.org

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