Problem booting from drive

[motorollin]

scuzzb494 wrote:
Interested, why if he was booting from just one hard drive that the file system would matter.

If the internal hard disk uses anything other than FFS for its file system then the chosen filesystem (e.g. SFS, PFS, AFS) *must* be installed in the RDB of at least one installed disk. If it is installed in the external disk then either drive will boot since the filesystem will be available and the partitions will be readable. Remove that external drive and you remove the filesystem, and the partitions are no longer readable.

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moto

[scuzzb494]

Hi

See what you mean. Thats why I say I would check the HDToolbox on both drives to see exactly how the drives are set up. Strange that 3.1 was installed on both drives. More likely one is a simple copy as a back up. If that were the case the file system would also have been copied. If not he simply needs to copy this over from the other drive. I tend to think it could be more than this.

Is it possible that the 2.5" is a none booting drive and can only be used as a slave, and that is how the guy set it up to get the 3.5" working. Just a longshot. I have had drives that have simply refused to boot from a cold start.

How do the two drives appear on the two button mouse down start up screen... Do we know ?

scuzz

[motorollin]

scuzzb494 wrote:
More likely one is a simple copy as a back up. If that were the case the file system would also have been copied. If not he simply needs to copy this over from the other drive.

That's not true. Filesystems for hard disks are not stored as a file on the disk. They are installed in the RDB of the disk. If the filesystem required for the partition was stored inside the partition itself, then how would the system know how to access the partition in order to access the filesystem? It can't, which is why the filesystem has to be installed in the RDB. If it's missing from one of the drives, then it will have to be installed in the RDB using HDToolBox before that drive will work on its own.

scuzzb494 wrote:
Is it possible that the 2.5" is a none booting drive and can only be used as a slave, and that is how the guy set it up to get the 3.5" working.

Disks aren't booting or non-booting. This is configurable in HDToolBox. The drive itself doesn't decide whether or not it boots.

scuzzb494 wrote:
Just a longshot. I have had drives that have simply refused to boot from a cold start.

It's probably more likely that they didn't spin up in time for the system to attempt to boot from them.

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moto

[scuzzb494]

Hi

Fundamentals of formatting, thanks for that..

Not that up on RDB, though I was appreciative of the way disks generally store such things. However to update the file system you would need to access the file system from the L drawer on the computer... This is how I do it with HDToolbox. Same goes for HDInstTools as understand. The key here is to access the HDToolbox which should show just how the drive is currently set up. Saying all that I only use FastFileSystem on OS3.0.

[ checking A1200 base system ]

One internal 2.5 and two external SCSI plus ZIP and CD:

Amiga 1200... HDToolBox
Partition drive
Advanced Options
Add/Update
Add New File System
Delete File System
Update File System
Enter Filename of File System
[ l:FastFileSystem ]

[ checking A1200 Tower with 3.1 ]

Buffered interface two 3.5" IDE, ZIP and CD.
IIyima 17" monitor ... nice

This machine has IDEFix
Sexy Lara backdrop

Checks HDToolBox... And its just the same.

I was just pointing out that the HDToolbox and the  Workbench are on both drives, which tool did he use to format which drive. I am sure that you are aware that you can edit the tooltype of HDToolBox to scan for different drives. [ highlight icon .. Info ]

[ To boot or not to boot ]

Giggles... Sorry. I assume when we are talking HD set up we use the HDToolbox. For me this is key. I have customised my HDToolbox to read internal drive and external SCSI drives differently. I will repeat what I said... What exactly does the HDToolbox report on these drives.. ?

I've tried SlowBoot... Gave up in the end and changed the drive

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/SlowBoot

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Fun that...

Where was I... A500, GVPHD+ and a 49MB massive hardrive, fingers crossed.... 1.3 don't you just love it. 2.0ROM on a 500+ mobo and the RAM icon jumped the other side of the screen.. Not sure I like this board in a 500. Button pressed  Whoo hoo working.. NUKE 1.5a no less 955376 graphics and a massive 3988032 other. Happy days.

scuzz

[webmany]

Found it.  If the external drive is removed, then the internal drive does not show up in the boot menu.  Find this a little weird as I have a second A1200 setup with a internal HD and it works fine.  Even tried a different cable.

Guess I will track down a different laptop HD and try it.

Thanks for all the help.

[PPC]

Or try to re-install it from HD toolbox , sounds like the HD is working but was not installed properly.

[Jope]

Webmany, sooo did you look at your RDB with hdtoolbox and check that the filesystem you use was also installed to the RDB of the internal drive?