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Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« on: September 28, 2007, 06:08:15 PM »
OK, I am using an A500 without a hard drive, but two floppy drives. I am trying to put ADF files on Amiga floppies. The method I've tried is to compress the ADF into an LHA, put the LHA on floppy, transfer the LHA from the PC floppy to an Amiga floppy on the Amiga side, then use LHA to extract the ADF onto another blank Amiga floppy. The problem I've run into is that every ADF file I've tried to extract this way comes out to 901KB, obvioulsy too large for a double density floppy. My question is, is there a method for getting ADF's onto floppies without a hard drive?

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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2007, 06:43:46 PM »
if u have more as 1 meg ram u can load the adf into ram
then put it on disk
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2007, 07:02:21 PM »
If you don't have a memory expansion, you could do it in a more cumbersome way.
Pack the ADF file with DMS (in UAE). It can be packed into two parts (see DMS helptext). Each of the DMS files stores half of the original floppy's blocks.
You can then copy the two DMS files individually onto floppies and extract them both to an Amiga floppy.
It's time consuming and boring, but it works with a vanilla A500 and 720K floppies.
 

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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2007, 07:27:45 PM »
if u have a seperate floppy drive u can load the adf from there to df0:
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2007, 07:32:05 PM »
@amazing:

I tried that method, but the size of the ADF comes out to 901KB, which is too big for a floppy.

@madsjm:

I have the 512KB expansion card, so I suppose that would give me the necessary amount of RAM. If not, then I'll try the method you described-it may be cumbersome, but at least it'll get the job done!
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2007, 07:48:04 PM »
hi
i tested it for u
i readed a random disk..and put outs 901.120 kb
then i writed it back on a other floppy..
then i tested the floppy and it works

so it should work on your end too?
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2007, 07:48:33 PM »
o i did this on my a1200

i go try it on my a500 for u
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2007, 07:51:04 PM »
But ow can it write all of a 901KB file to a floppy? They only hold 834KB when formatted. I have my A500 extracting an ADF from a LHA archive at this moment. Its extracting directly to a floppy, and the process, I'm almost sure, will fail because the file is too big.
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2007, 07:52:52 PM »
i think adf blitzer read 82 track of what i remember
some protected games where 82 tracks too
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2007, 08:10:19 PM »
i readed your problem...on aminet

http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/adfblitzer

os2+ and 1mb will not be enough
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2007, 08:15:33 PM »
901.120/1024=880. So the 901.120 number is correct!

People forget that 1000!=1024...
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2007, 08:34:01 PM »
That still doesn't solve anything because my floppy ahs only 834KB of space when formatted. So even an 880KB will not fit.
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2007, 08:35:41 PM »
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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2007, 08:38:39 PM »
Posting more and more ADF to disk utilities won't change the fact that the ADF doesn't fit on the disk.

You have no choice but to put the ADF in RAM and write it back from there, or use the split DMS method above. Secret Hidden Option 3 is to use a Catweasel and write the images on a PC (but probably won't work if the disk is non-DOS).

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Re: Putting ADF's on floppy w/out a hard drive
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2007, 08:42:24 PM »
well as u readed adfblitzer wont run in kick 1.3
u need 2+ and more as 1mb ram

maybe when he uses a different proggie he can use 2drives?
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