Pre-assembled Minimigs - Cmonnnnn!

[little]

I'm sure some folks wouldnt want to send $ in his direction.. (Bill Buck)

From Genesi? Please correct me if I am wrong, but they have already won a legal demand vs. A inc. so I think they fit the bill to sell a "Finished product". AFAIK people dislike genesi because EFIKA does not run AmigaOS (or AROS or MorphOS or any amiga flavored OS). But minimig DOES run amigaOS up to 3.1, what is there to dislike?

[TheMagicM]

I dont dislike Bill at all, others do.  if you're asking me "what is there to dislike" then you must be a newbie to the Amiga scene and whats gone on.

legal demand or not, Bill can have these put together without any sort of repercussions from Amiga Incompetent.  

It was just a idea.

[little]

then you must be a newbie to the Amiga scene and whats gone on.

If by newbie you mean "skipped almost a decade of melodrama" you are bloody right. I suffered the dying of the amiga like everybody, voraciously reading every new amigaworld issue hoping news of change for the best. After the bankruptcy I heard every few years news of "The new Amiga" but never saw it materealize. Then I hear about the minimig and for the first time in YEARS it is for real, it might not be a microsoft killer, but has a lot of potential. I really could not care less about all the drama gone in years past, if this bill guy can deliver a finished product all the thousands of people that left the amiga when commodore died will have a good reason to return, if only to take a nice trip down memory lane.

[koaftder]

wtf?!

[alexh]

little wrote:
... and they could be counter sued for racketeering

Yeah, right. Not.

little wrote:
because is the only reason for a demand, extort money,

One way to look at it, but it happens all the time. It's pretty rife in the US at the moment.

little wrote:
there is no piece of hardware in the minimig that would holds water in IP demand in a court of law.

As a hardware engineer, a patent holder, and some experience at being an evil SOB, I say you are wrong.

Unfortunately some of Dennis' posts to this forum backup such a claim :-(

Dennis wrote:
Minimig is based 90% on the documentation provided by the Hardware Reference Manual

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31078

[little]

Unfortunately some of Dennis' posts to this forum backup such a claim

Is that all? Man, you had me worried there for a second. SCO had better chances with imaginary patents than A inc has arguing they have a book copyright, since they will have to show proof to the judge and the instant they come out empty handed it will be over, as simple as that.

[downix]

little wrote:

Unfortunately some of Dennis' posts to this forum backup such a claim

Is that all? Man, you had me worried there for a second. SCO had better chances with imaginary patents than A inc has arguing they have a book copyright, since they will have to show proof to the judge and the instant they come out empty handed it will be over, as simple as that.

You know, knowing who has the rights to the RKM's would be good to know anyways.  They are hopelessly dated, being only OS 2 and ECS.

[pixie]

@nBit7

2. Legal: (A inc)

What legal issues one FPGA board has? What relevance whatsoever with Amiga Inc?

[hardlink]

koaftder wrote:
Assembly time should be about an hour per board.

An hour using crude and purely manual tools, like a soldering iron and a magnifying glass? (No hot-air rework equipment, etc)

[alexh]

little wrote:
Is that all? Man, you had me worried there for a second.

Heheh.

SCO had better chances with imaginary patents than A inc has arguing they have a book copyright, since they will have to show proof to the judge and the instant they come out empty handed it will be over, as simple as that.

You're making one assumption, that Amiga inc. owns the copyrights to that book. Who's to say it wasnt Tulip or someone else who bought Commodore?

I am sure everything will be fine.

I just thought that anyone considering investing their own personal money making and selling MiniMig's should weigh up this as a small but potential risk.

[little]

Who's to say (the book copyright) wasnt (kept by) Tulip or someone else who bought Commodore?

Now that would be a BIG relief. Because none of them could care less about it (it would a piece of paper no one knows it is there) or if they have been following the amiga scene up to now they must be amiga fans that would not stop the minimig production.

[Crom00]

mingle wrote:
There's a huge amount of interest in pre-assembled Minimigs, so I wonder why it seems to be so hard to get hold of one?
)

Need an accurate real world BOM Bill of Materials, I've spent a lot of time this week going back and forth between factories and you cant get from point a to point b without it. You can probably let the factory source a working version from the schematics but that will take time and development costs with risk that they may not be able to source all the parts.

Without a BOM you can print circuit boards till you're blue in the face, without , the IC's to populate it, the circuit board is a fancy piece of digital artwork.

You can hang it on a wall as a testament to the tenacity of the Amiga fantatical spirit.

But if you want the working model we all crave, need the BOM.

 :-D

[TheMagicM]

another SMD tutorial...

http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/present.php?p=SMD-HowTo-1

[amazing]

i can solder that stuff..i only need to buy a good iron for myself