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Zorro III USB - Deneb
« on: September 21, 2007, 07:11:39 PM »
Amiga-News.de is reporting a first look at E3B's new Z3 USB card.

The bulk of the main report is only in German, but there are some pictures as well.

Most likely getting one of these!
 

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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2007, 07:17:09 PM »
Wow looks nice! I have one Z3 slot left...
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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2007, 07:18:55 PM »
I wish they where coupled with lan too! like an onboard norway...
 

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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2007, 07:54:54 PM »

Been looking forward geting hands on one  :-)

Any release date set?
 

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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2007, 08:46:16 PM »
@keropi
What about a USB Ethernet dongle? We're talking USB speeds of 12MB/sec on this baby!!
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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2007, 08:48:12 PM »
@tahoe:

I don't know, the dongles already tested on subway/algorPRO are SLOW! 4-5kb/s , I could not make them go faster...
 

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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 08:55:43 PM »
This card is more then 10, if not 20 times faster. (specially compared to the subway)
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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2007, 09:16:51 PM »
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I wish they where coupled with lan too! like an onboard norway...


A 100 Mbit Addon may follow.

 

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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2007, 09:17:33 PM »
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Any release date set?


Not yet, we hope to make it to Xmas this year (announcement of the year seems to be necessary on Amiga market ;-) )

I'm quite busy with real life at the moment, and I must order things after their urgency. At least my desktop is in operation again, so I can try to get the last few developments done for this card.

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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2007, 09:22:53 PM »
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What about a USB Ethernet dongle? We're talking USB speeds of 12MB/sec on this baby!!


Ethernet on USB2 is definitely the way to go here.

About the 12MB/s measurement: it was on a A3640 card, which has no onboard RAM. So the 12MB/s are Zorro III to motherboard RAM, and the speed is higher as on CPU card addon RAM, as there are fewer levels of logic in the data path (bus drivers, MACHs, ...). On the other hand, the A3640 is dead slow when accessing motherboard RAM, so things equalize here again.

You can expect DMA performances of the about 8MB/s to 10MB/s in real life, depending on the hardware setup you have, and about 4MB/s to 6MB/s when running in PIO mode (as explained on a1k.org this is a matter of Buster features, indeed).
But don't fix me on these numbers, development is still ongoing, and timings may or may not change - better have a stable system with slightly less performance than a faster system with hangups and data losses.
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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 09:31:03 PM »
Great job as always mboehmer_e3b !
I can't wait to get my hands on the new cards  :lol:
 

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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2007, 09:44:49 PM »
*me_want* :-o
 

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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2007, 10:02:13 PM »
Looking forward to a product. I hope this product is not the end of all your hard Zorro III work michael.
 

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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2007, 11:09:20 PM »
Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Re: Zorro III USB - Deneb
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2007, 11:41:47 PM »
Great news Michael! I'll very likely get one of these :-)

However, I remember Chris Hodges stating on the Highway mailing list that Poseidon 3.8 might be the last 68K version, so what can we expect regarding poseidon (68K version) development, updates, new drivers/classes and support when this card gets released?

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