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Offline Crom00Topic starter

Re: Contaced a Factory in China about producing a run of fully populated Mini-migs
« Reply #149 from previous page: October 23, 2007, 07:43:56 PM »
Working to get another PCB vendor so we can resume work on this at full speed. The electronics factories are fine been over there, not like the media tries to portray. Good hard workers, clean facilities.
 

Offline Crom00Topic starter

Figured I ask...

Anyone outside the UK willing to part with at least one bare PCB to further this cause? I ask for blokes outside the UK due to the unreliable nature of Royal Post.

Your would be helping moving this project forward... No ebay solicitations please.

Thanks!
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I would volunteer, but I am waiting for the Royal Mail to deliver my MiniMig to the USA.   :boohoo:
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Anyone outside the UK willing to part with at least one bare PCB to further this cause?
Well, I live in The Netherlands and I've got a white minimig for you to help things going, but it's rev 1.0 :-( Would that be alright?
 

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Not to say the regime and conditions are perfect by any means, but you do have to remember when seeing shock horror reports that some workers only get paid $5 a week, that basic necessities are also dirt cheap. If you do the "package tour" type visit there, you'll pay western type prices for a big-mac but the locals would be getting their "fast food" from roadside stalls for like 3-5 cents for a meal.

IMO, things will only change there as the economy fully develops into a free market, free enterprise economy, that will only happen through external trade. Political and social change will probably result in time. Ergo, refusing to trade with China is like condemning them to eternal insular communism. IMO transition from warring feudal societies to democratic unified state takes about 50-100 years of political stability under a hardass monarch, dictator, colonial administration etc. Then democracy will take hold successfully. Can't be rushed, the tribal feuding has to pass from living memory, then democracy can take hold, try it too early and it's highly likely to break down into a feudal mess of competing warlords. So looking at it that way, a communist dictatorship is a larval stage for democracy (one of several types). Russians just came out of it, China wasn't unified under it until post WWII so they might have a few years yet.

Anyhoo, whaddaya gonna do, refuse to buy products made by 12 y.o.'s such that they starve in the streets instead, send money for relief and let them hate you for the loss of their dignity. Or participate in the process of letting the country pull itself up by it's bootstraps (painfully slow to watch) which appears to me the surest way to lasting change. They might seem to be taken advantage of at this point in time, but 3 Billion people aren't going to let a few multi-nationals walk all over them forever.

Then you might say "What about the jobs in my country" well what about them, if something would never happen due to expense of doing it here, it's hardly a loss to make it happen by getting it done somewhere affordable is it? In fact, since the ICs are from, or licensed from, US companies, there's probably more of a net benefit in doing it elsewhere than not doing it at all. Proper jobs at a fair union wage you say...... develop that thought..... extend to ultimate logical political conclusion..... it ends with pretending to work, while the govt pretends to pay you, after several years of which, and the queueing for bread, you might decide that working 80 hour weeks for $5 in a capitalist economy isn't such a bad idea to get the country on it's feet again. Swings and roundabouts.... we've got some imbalance at the moment, supporting the high side, or holding down the low side, is an exercise in artificial stability... let the balance ease into place, supporting the high side until it becomes heavy enough to crush the support, results in carnage.


But, not meaning to threadjack, just saying that if you think you've got ideological objections to the method and place of manufacture, just take a look at the long term and big picture and make sure you haven't got your ideology on backwards.
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CD32Freak wrote:
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Anyone outside the UK willing to part with at least one bare PCB to further this cause?
Well, I live in The Netherlands and I've got a white minimig for you to help things going, but it's rev 1.0 :-( Would that be alright?


Is that the one with Silkscreen on one side ???  :lol: I have not forgotten that :)
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Yeah, go ahead and laugh, but one day I will frame it and sell it on eBay for hundreds of Euro's! :lol: ;-)

It was the first time I ordered a PCB :-) Besides, I can't help there was only a top silkscreen gerber file with the first release. Well, at least it made you and probably others laugh :-D
 

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@RW222,

You wrote:

".....But not meaning to threadjack, just saying...."

Wow, what a huge three paragraphs of jacking you wrote that has little to do with MiniMigs.  I think perhaps you should have saved that for another forum thread in the correct forum title.

Anyway, to get back ON TOPIC, I will buy a fully populated v1.1 MiniMIG from the first person that can produce one.  (Even if it is produced in China, Tibet, Egypt, Indiana, Tijuana, or my neighbors backyard)

Let me know when they are available.
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Uhm, and what does iCab 2.9.9b have that amiga browsers dont have? Apart from higher RAM requirements that is  :-D
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Uhm, and what does iCab 2.9.9b have that amiga browsers dont have?

You tell me
 

Offline Crom00Topic starter

Continuing to get word back frm factoires, they are having problems sourcing the ram and the following parts:
the cost does not include IC9 & IC5, IC6 & 7 Ram.

Where have y'all been getting your parts, I'll pass the info along. I suspect they're using asian suppliers hence the sourcing issues.
 

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Crom00 wrote:
Continuing to get word back frm factoires, they are having problems sourcing the ram and the following parts:
the cost does not include IC9 & IC5, IC6 & 7 Ram.

Where have y'all been getting your parts, I'll pass the info along. I suspect they're using asian suppliers hence the sourcing issues.


IC5 - FPGA, Digikey (Who are also having supply issues, Estimated Lead time, December 07)
IC9 - 68000, Digikey (245 in stock)
IC6 & IC7 - RAM, Digikey (130 in stock, 65 minimig's worth).

If they are looking for the Original StaticRam from Minimig 1.0, then yes, its Obsolete, thats why Dennis moved to Asynchronous Sram.  They need to look for IC SRAM 8MB ASYNC 44-TSOPII (IS62WV51216BLL-55TLI)
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tell the Chinese manufacturer not to paint any parts of it with that lead based paint that they like to use. :lol:


u planning on extensively licking your minimig?
 

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amigadave wrote:
tell the Chinese manufacturer not to paint any parts of it with that lead based paint that they like to use. :lol:


u planning on extensively licking your minimig?

It is the new fad, how many licks do you need to get to the center of your minimig? X_X The world might never know :lol:
 

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@sir_inferno,

Don't you lick all your PCBs before you start soldering? :lol:

Tastes like Commodore chicken lips!    :crazy:
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amigadave wrote:
@sir_inferno,

Don't you lick all your PCBs before you start soldering? :lol:

Tastes like Commodore chicken lips!    :crazy:


Yeah, didn't you know that Saliva works better than Solder flux ?
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