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New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« on: September 12, 2007, 12:02:14 PM »
Are SD/FF currently made or available new?

Does there exist any DIY projects?

If the answer to these questions is no.  What level of interest would there be in a new SD/FF.  What price would most people be willing to pay?
 

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2007, 12:13:01 PM »
Id be intrested in obtaining / building a SD/FF for my A1200, but the main problem that I have is that I would like to avoid cutting too many holes in the top half of the RF shield in order to be able to fit such an upgrade (Being a Radio Ham I'd like to be able to use the A1200 with the RF shield in place...)

Btw, i've seen IC's used in SD/FF's from time to time on Amigakit. Maybe they might be useful in constructing new SD/FF's?

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2007, 12:29:25 PM »
I was on the lookout for one myself. None seem to turn op on ebay and amigakit haven't got any.

I think I'd be interested in buying a new one. Ideal price would be as cheap as possible. I'd get one for about 20 quid, maybe stretch as far as 40 - 50 if I thought it was worth it.
 

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2007, 12:33:01 PM »
£20 to £30 sounds reasonable to me, too.
RF-Shield friendly would be a real bonus (And possible necessity)...

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2007, 12:33:45 PM »
Almost on-topic, does anyone know if this one might work?  It accepts RGB at 15KHz and converts it to standard VGA 640x480 or 800x600.
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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2007, 12:38:29 PM »
Looks like it might work...Just the price is a bit steep at £69.40. And its a bit larger than the average A1200 SD/FF.

Nice find though.

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2007, 12:43:41 PM »
I was thinking of an external unit.  Was there such an external device that worked well with AGA.  I have had a quick look around and haven't been able to find much info on SD/FF.  Can someone point me to a site with some technical information?
 

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2007, 12:46:40 PM »
Amigakit...
MACH210A-12JC for EZ-VGA Amiga Scandoubler
£11.75
product code: EZMACH210

Im not sure wether Amigakit would be the best place to obtain IC's from if anyone were to go into full-scale production using this part (No offence, but products do seem to dissappear and reappear from time to time), but it would probably be OK for people to buy it by themselves in order to construct a kit using it, perhaps.

Just a thought.
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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2007, 12:47:20 PM »
Unfortunately, to really get the perfect scan doubler that will actually work effectively, you need something like this:

http://www.rgb.com/en/Products/ViewProduct.asp?product=VideoLink1690&nav=AudioVisual

That retails at $3500.  ICK!
 

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2007, 12:52:34 PM »
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I was on the lookout for one myself. None seem to turn op on ebay and amigakit haven't got any.


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I was thinking of an external unit.


SD/FF on eBay

It's not mine though.


 

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2007, 01:07:10 PM »
Unfortunately the CGA -> VGA converter requires CGA input,
which is digital R+G+B+I (16 colors) only. I would doubt that
it would recognize the analog RGB Signal of the AMIGA, but the
AMIGA does output the digital signals on the 23-pin Video
port as well :)
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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2007, 01:09:52 PM »
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Unfortunately, to really get the perfect scan doubler that will actually work effectively, you need something like this:


This unit looks like a fair bit of overkill with all its scaling, filtering and everything.  Is scaling to other resolutions a useful feature for this application?
 

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2007, 01:34:40 PM »
The ultimate SD/FF would also have be true 24bit. The external SD/FF I have is 12bit only, that makes AGA look "blocky" on my monitor. Also, it would be nice with higher rates than 31KHz to get the display more steady.

Like the PicassoIV SD/FF, right?

And a passthruough for gfxcard. Would be nice too.

Price? Hmm... Im not dreaming, this wouldnt be mainstream off-the-shelf hardware, so 250 - 350 USD, maybe...

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2007, 01:39:51 PM »
What about this

MC1 Amiga Computers Store

Click on New

Scroll down to "Video to VGA adaptor $99"

Some Amiga reseller is selling it, so dunno if it would be good or not?
 

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Re: New Scandoubler/Flicker Fixer?
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2007, 03:57:40 PM »
EDIT:
This site seems to have the same thing at $90
http://www.grandtec.com/videomate.htm
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