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Offline Gulliver

Re: Clean booting UAE x86 Amiga
« Reply #14 from previous page: August 22, 2007, 06:19:33 PM »
You missunderstood me arnljot!
What i was trying to say is that emulated windows enviroment, no matter which one you use, will be good for testing the nLited windows, but that you should bare in mind that the hardware in any emulator will be most likely different from your real pc (eg.: Nvidia chipset is not emulated!). I hope you understand it.
On the other hand there are other alternatives to VMWare and MS Virtual PC, have you heard of Virtual Box?
Surf to www.virtualbox.org its quite a nice emulator!
Anyway have fun!
 

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Re: Clean booting UAE x86 Amiga
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2007, 01:13:32 AM »
More Tips for WinUAE modded Windows 2000/XP/2003 with nLite:

1-From these nLite modded Windws OSes, 2003 has the fastest bootup time, XP has the second and win2k the third. But if you are using these OSes in low memory setups 128mb or less, you should consider the size of the OS memory footprint to make the most appropiate choice. Server 2003 requires 24mb ram minimum, XP will run with 20mb ram and i have tested win2k with 12mb ram!

2-All these OSes despite their different resulting size when their cd is modded to the extreme with nLite, will occupy aproximately 370mb to 400mb of disk space when installed!
Note. I once did a 378mb install of XP on my harddisk, when in normal systems it occupies at least 1100mb!

3-Disabling windows services will reduce performance penalties that these oses infringe by default to the user. But you should be carefull what you remove. You can do this either using nLite or after an install running the msconfig program
This is what i remembered i removed (remember some OSes dont have some of these services):

Alerter
Clipbook
Computer Browser
Fast User Switching
Human Interface Access Devices
Indexing Service (Slows the hard drive down)
Messenger
Net Logon (unnecessary unless networked on a Domain)
Netmeeting Remote Desktop Sharing (disabled for extra security)
Remote Desktop Help Session Manager (disabled for extra security)
Remote Procedure Call Locator
Remote Registry (disabled for extra security)
Routing & Remote Access (disabled for extra security)
Server
SSDP Discovery Service (this is for the utterly pointless "Universal P'n'P", & leaves TCP Port 5000 wide open)
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Telnet (disabled for extra security)
Universal Plug and Play Device Host
Upload Manager
Windows Time
Wireless Zero Configuration (for wireless networks)
Workstation

4-Windos shutdown takes lot of precious time, much like 20 seconds in average. You can reduce this time by makin this tweak:
Go to regedit and change the key :

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SYSTEM\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\WaitToKillServiceTimeout

I set mine to 0 ms and now i shutdown way fast. Experiment with the settings.

5 - Turn off System Restore on ALL drives and turn off Hibernate and remove the Hibernate file from the root ( C: ) ( file is 300mb+ ), if you didnt do that with nLite

6 - Remember to use the WinUAE settings in your favor. Change WinUAE priority, give it the highest you can and remember to disable the gui at startup, so that when you start WinUAE it boots directly into the emulated Amiga.

7 - CD autorun or auto play feature in windows is annoying for our goal of hiding the windows enviroment. Disable it! The settings for autoplay and cd recording can be tweaked by opening explorer or my computer, right click on the cd-rom drive, then click properties.

8 - One feature that I can do without is error reporting. Every time a program crashes I do not want to send a report to microsoft.
Open Control Panel
Click on Preformance and Maintenance.
Click on System.
Then click on the Advanced tab
Click on the error reporting button on the bottom of the windows.
Select Disable error reporting.
Click OK
Click OK  

9 - By modifying the file boot.ini you can change the names of OS , how they appear in boot menu (i.e. You can change "Microsoft Windows XP" to "Amiga OS"). Additionally, you can change the amount of time the menu is displayed for and the default OS.

10-If you really want to push performance to the limits. Use Windows XP Embedded, which is a program made by Microsoft that works the other way round compared to nLite. You can choose the components that will be included for the OS build. You can create working XP builds that occupy much less resources. Deep knowledge of XP and WinUAE will help you build the ultimate WinUAE modded Windows. I warned you, it is not a task for the casual user, but if you get something done this way, it would be awesome. Please drop me a mail with your achievements if you go this route! :)

So if any of you have now gone this path of modifying Windows OS and hide its propaganda to use WinUAE much like a real Amiga please do dare to post your achievents and constraints!


 

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Re: Clean booting UAE x86 Amiga
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2007, 02:55:27 AM »
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The X-Amiga installer CD is nearly finished, if you can wait a bit longer. (There's a website too...)


Very cool.
 

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Re: Clean booting UAE x86 Amiga
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2007, 06:28:55 AM »
@ Gulliver:

Sounds as complicated as Linux... You should write an installer! :-D
 

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Re: Clean booting UAE x86 Amiga
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2007, 07:10:10 AM »
@vic20owner

WinUAE has not been ported to AROS. WinUAE runs only on Windows.

AROS does have E-UAE, but it's far from WinUAE usability.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Clean booting UAE x86 Amiga
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2007, 02:48:13 PM »
It is not as comlicated as linux, the hints i was providing were for polishing to the extreme your WinUAE setup. For ordinary usage little or no tweaking is required!
On the other hand, following those tips will eventually allow you to build a setup for low end pc´s.
I installed a Winuae setup in a pc with 32mb ram. I could never master that with Linux. I have to declare i have nothing against Linux, it is that i couldn´t use UAE with it on low end pc´s.
For fast pc´s i must recommend that X-Amiga, linux based install. Why? Linux is free!
The story could be different if someone manages to create a resourceless (not the correct word, but will do), Linux install.
 

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Re: Clean booting UAE x86 Amiga
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2007, 02:55:15 PM »
@Piru

 Keep it clean, people!!  That means, everyone!
« Last Edit: August 30, 2010, 03:29:59 AM by SilvrDrgn »
People are hostile to what they do not understand - Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib(AS)
 

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Re: Clean booting UAE x86 Amiga
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2007, 03:55:01 PM »
@Fraccy,

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The X-Amiga installer CD is nearly finished, if you can wait a bit longer. (There's a website too...)



Do you have a link to the website? :-)
 

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Re: Clean booting UAE x86 Amiga
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2007, 04:00:42 PM »
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(A) Minimal XP by BartPE with WinUAE (PEBuilder Home)
(B) Minimal XP by nLite with WinUAE (nLite Home)
(C) Minimal XP by RyanVM with WinUAE (RyanVM Home)
(D) Minimal XP, *custom* (tips...)
(E) Linux with E-UAE
(F) Amithlon (amiga on a small linux)
(G) AmigaXL (amiga on QNX)


Another alternative is UAE-X for the XBox. It works well.

http://uaex.sourceforge.net/
A500 - dead
A500 - pulse detected
A500/A570/A590 ROM Switcher/Action Replay Mk III
A1200/020 18megs RAM
A1200/020/10megs RAM/scsi/CD/ZIP/1x4gig+2x2gig HD
A4000/EC030 - Work in progress
A4000/040 x 2 - Work in progress
 

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Re: Clean booting UAE x86 Amiga
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2007, 09:14:28 PM »
@spihunter

Not just yet - I'd like to finish everything first! Until it's finished, it's just 'vapour'...

Amir