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PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« on: June 12, 2007, 07:36:32 PM »
Hi
ok i have had random reset problems with my ppc which i have only owned for just over a week.

The reset usualy happens while i'm playing mp via amigaamp/warpup.

This happens every single time without fail,its not if it will happen it's when.

Sometimes it might be seconds of using amigamp other times it could be longer.

Now i have put a fan against the cpu and nothing has changed so far.

i have read that 1D4 boards cause the most probs with the PPC,what are the symptoms??Random resets?Not booting with a CDRW drive?

Any help is appreciated.
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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2007, 07:42:15 PM »
My rev 1D4 mobo never had any issues with BPPC + BVisionPPC. The setup also had PCMCIA network card, selfmade IDEFix hardware, IDE CD-RW, IDE and SCSI HDDs.

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Ah, since overclocking was mentioned. My BPPC has 603p @ 240->266 and 060 @ 50->64 overclock.

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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2007, 07:54:59 PM »
Is your board overclocked? Many times people do not notice problems with overclocking until such cpu intensive applications are utilized. Also it might be a good idea to clean Bppc connector and make sure its making good connection.
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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2007, 08:20:04 PM »
Hi
No my board is just running at standard 50/240mhz,well i pushed a fan right against the black ppc chip?and the amiga  has been on for 50 mins so far without a crash.

So hopefully this might have solved it?
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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2007, 08:25:59 PM »
Have you put on a new BPPC cooling fan? remember that these fans are 10 years old and also check that you have fresh thermo conductive paste between the PPC and the heatsink

My mobo is also an ID4 with the same BPPC specs
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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2007, 08:30:57 PM »
Ok it has just rest again,the good ol mp3 stutter and then reset.

Right,where is the heatsink on the ppc board exactly?The big black thing right?

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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2007, 08:33:17 PM »
I used 1d4 with 1230/1260/bppc060/zorroII rbm/grex1200/mediatorZIV/fastata/4x IDE/blah blah, never had probs
 

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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2007, 08:37:10 PM »
Same as Piru:

My rev 1D4 mobo never had any issues with BPPC + BVisionPPC. The setup also had PCMCIA network card, IDEFix hardware, IDE CD-RW, IDE HDDs, sometimes I use a SDFF.

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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2007, 08:37:39 PM »
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Ok it has just rest again,the good ol mp3 stutter and then reset.

Right,where is the heatsink on the ppc board exactly?The big black thing right?



Yes, it's the big, black square thing held by clips
Don't forget to switch fan if it's the original fan...have a new fan on both my BPPC's

Since it now runs longer with extra cooling it smells bad PPC cooling...
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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2007, 09:17:40 PM »
Ok then i'll see about replacing the fan,erm most 40mm fans have the 3 pin socket on and the ppc seems to have the 2 pin?

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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2007, 09:19:40 PM »
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Ok then i'll see about replacing the fan,erm most 40mm fans have the 3 pin socket on and the ppc seems to have the 2 pin?



Yep, but the 3rd pin is often just for the RPM signal

The PPC fan is a 30mm fan...Amigakit and PG here on the board has them for sale
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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2007, 09:22:33 PM »
Ah right i'll check it out,Thanks for the help.
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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2007, 09:33:41 PM »
Hmm amigakit dont seem to have any 30mm fans at the mo and just the 40mm/80mm.
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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2007, 10:02:10 PM »
First thing I would do is start it up with the bare minimum of software running, i.e. boot with no startup-sequence, then setpatch, then just load what's needed to run AmigaAmp. Then see what happens!

Next step is to try it with a different PSU, I'd say.
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Re: PPC probs,1D4 most problematic?
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2007, 06:44:55 AM »
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Hmm amigakit dont seem to have any 30mm fans at the mo and just the 40mm/80mm.


Looks like Amigakit has removed the item from their inventory
Check if PG has some left
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