Is anybody happy about the lawsuit?

[Tigger]

countzero wrote:

Tigger wrote:

Four years after paying for it, Hyperion apparently decided that they owned the OS and signed a distributer for an OS based on AI IP whose modifications were paid for by AI to the amount required by the contract.  
    -Tig

methinks you're too jumpy. Have you seen the original contract of Hyperion ? No ? Don't you think it's a little bit strange that it was not submitted to the court ? Did you know all AInc's claims were based on a 2004 contract which was NOT signed by either parties ? (Arctic software development agreement)

I think I have actually read the documents and you have not at this point, so no I dont think I am being jumpy. Have I seen the original contract with Hyperion?  Yes, I have and if you'd read Fleecy's deposition, you would have read it too, its Exhibit A.  Its identical to the unsigned one thats been floating around btw, but it has Alan, Benji and Barry's (fleecy) signature on it, and initials on every page.  Now how about you go read the document and then come back with your questions.  In addition, we see that in April 24, 2003 that Ben Hermans and Kouri signed an agreement for $25K for Hyperion to deliver the OS4 code and executables (Thats Exhibit F of the Bill McEwen Deposition).  Its 4 years later and they havent delivered the code or executables yet.  
     -Tig

[Kronos]

Hmmm .... Glittering == Paul Gadd ?

Just food for thought  :lol:

[jj]

What, Paul gadd, my old nemisis, that I had to kick up such a fuss to get his child molesting avatar changed ( Paul Gadd = gary gliter).

He does seem to have the same unique trolling abilities, and glittering.

Good work Kronos, hadnt thought about thaat idiot in ages, he really was a complete retarded moron

[Kaminari]

cv643d wrote:
Did Hyperion make 3.5 and 3.9? I have always thought it was Hage and Partners who made them.

Hyperion has nothing to do with 3.5 or 3.9. The Frieden brothers were only involved with the WarpUP support.

[Lemmink]

I do not see why anyone in it's right mind could possibly be on AInc's side ?? Unless you absolutely hate OS4 and want it to vanish from the surface of the earth.

AInc. does not have the plan to develop and sell OS4 once they have got complete hold of it. Bill McEwen stated years before that he doesn't give a sh!t about the amiga community (though he was clever enough to say it in a little more diplomatic way).
Even AInc. can not be stupid enough to think they could sell more then few hundred maybe thousand copies of OS4, so for them OS4 is practically worthless.

Somehow they are up to a new money making scheme and the existance of OS4 as it is is in their way, so they want to have it buried in the deep sea. That's the only reason why they want it back.

Before taking side cosider the following:

OS4 in the hands of AInc. means there will be no OS4 for anyone.

So if you do not care about OS4 be free to cheer for AInc.

[bloodline]

Lemmink wrote:
I do not see why anyone in it's right mind could possibly be on AInc's side ?? Unless you absolutely hate OS4 and want it to vanish from the surface of the earth.

...or you might have had a run in with Ben Hermans and hate him and his  company.

It just seems somewhat fitting that A.Inc turned on thier one ally, just as everyone not blinded by Amiga lust imagined they would.

AOS4 is not part of that. :-)

[jthomas]

>Did Hyperion make 3.5 and 3.9? I have always thought it was Hage and Partners who made them.

Yes... and Hage & Partner got the same treatment once finished all the work...

[amiga92570]

"but what did we learn form this? We could have as a community come up with $25000 for a brand new OS!"


Well I don't know, $10,000 has not gotten us a workable browser. :idea:


http://www.discreetfx.com/AmiZilla.html  

[Piru]

@countzero

Have you seen the original contract of Hyperion ? No ? Don't you think it's a little bit strange that it was not submitted to the court ?

What's this then (page 12)?

[countzero]

I haven't read the moss' document when I wrote that message.

[meega]

A lot of people seem to be passing comment without having seen any documentation. I think it would be better if people would either:

a> read the documents that are available, if they can access them (links to some documents have been provided)

or

b> wait for those documents to become available in a form that they can access (due to possible hardware/software issues, e.g. browser capabilities, internet access speed, etc.)

or

c> keep quiet, unless they have first hand knowledge or information (and then please provide that information to the rest of us)

Amiga.org might be held responsible or accountable for libellous statements made by individuals, which would obviously be countered by moderators having to edit posts or take other actions, which I am sure that they would rather not have to do.

Please, people, less speculative spume. It is not pleasant to read.

[weirdami]

let's be happy or sad at the results of the lawsuit when it's over instead.

[Kronos]

Kaminari wrote:

cv643d wrote:
Did Hyperion make 3.5 and 3.9? I have always thought it was Hage and Partners who made them.

Hyperion has nothing to do with 3.5 or 3.9. The Frieden brothers were only involved with the WarpUP support.

Nope, try again .....  :-P

[aardvark]

Is anybody happy about the lawsuit?

Yup,the lawyers! :rtfm:  :destroy:

[jcassara]

Sing it, Chicago!  "Does anybody really know what time it is? ... Does anybody really care?"

I'm hoping:

- someone buys up the AmigaAnywhere platform and intellectual property and uses it to develop/distribute on license a line of games for portable and casual gamers, under the "Amiga" brand (a la Atari).  The name will live on, and the only "real" technology Amiga, Inc. has developed will continue in another form.

- everything OS4/New Amiga/Classic Amiga is liquidated to the highest bidder and forgotten about as a personal computer.  Put it to use in some embedded application.  Put it in toys or ATMs or toasters.  

Amiga has been the Terri Schiavo of personal computing sine 1993, nothing more than the source of warm nostalgia at industry {bleep}tail parties!  Enough is enough!

[Agafaster]

@Glittering

Don't forget, mate, those are only assertions to be 'proven' either way by the court.
we know nothing, anything (unless you have hard evidence) is just hearsay, conjecture, and in your case personal opinion.

Paul Hogan said 'opinions are like farts. only your own smells nice'