Shifting the Sands of the TradeMark...

[MayhemMaybe]

mdma wrote:
But he could release a pegasos with on-board video in an A1200 style case and call it an Amiga legally! :-D

Not if the holder of 73571532 decides they can't. That trademark is still live and covers: COMPUTERS, COMPUTER DISK DRIVES, RAM EXPANSION CARTRIDGES, COMPUTER MONITORS, AND COMPUTER MODEMS

[CodeSmith]

I see the page has contact numbers for the attourneys involved in the case.

Please people, do NOT make an ass of yourselves (and the rest of the amiga crowd) by harassing these people.  If you think Bill Buck does not deserve the amiga trademark, send a reasonably-worded email explaining the fact as you see them.  The last thing I want to read on Slashdot is "trademark lawyer mailbombed by amiga nuts".  That is the kind of publicity we DO NOT need.

Personally, as long as I get to run Hyperion's AmigaOS4, I don't care what else runs on the computer and who owns the name...

[takemehomegrandma]

MayhemMaybe wrote:

mdma wrote:
But he could release a pegasos with on-board video in an A1200 style case and call it an Amiga legally! :-D

Not if the holder of 73571532 decides they can't. That trademark is still live and covers: COMPUTERS, COMPUTER DISK DRIVES, RAM EXPANSION CARTRIDGES, COMPUTER MONITORS, AND COMPUTER MODEMS

If someone would like to contact that "holder" (to discuss cooperation for instance), where would you advice them to go?  :-o   :-P

[Elektro]

The first thing I want to read on Slashdot is "trademark lawyer mailbombed by amiga nuts".

OK I'm on it!

[takemehomegrandma]

CodeSmith wrote:
I see the page has contact numbers for the attourneys involved in the case.

Please people, do NOT make an ass of yourselves (and the rest of the amiga crowd) by harassing these people.  If you think Bill Buck does not deserve the amiga trademark, send a reasonably-worded email explaining the fact as you see them.  The last thing I want to read on Slashdot is "trademark lawyer mailbombed by amiga nuts".  That is the kind of publicity we DO NOT need.

Personally, as long as I get to run Hyperion's AmigaOS4, I don't care what else runs on the computer and who owns the name...

You enlighten us that there are contact info (and where) to the attorneys, and you say that one can write some kind of "protest" to them if you don't want BB to have the trademark, and then you say that "please don't mailbomb them"! Wow, talk about contradictions! :-D

Well, I know one certain attorney that is going to be absolutely flooded with nice messages from "nice community members" (Thinking about that auction firm that is selling off Amiga Inc's material assets; "... and please tell the people on your website to *stop* sending us e-mails about this!").  :-P

[lempkee]

bbrv: u said it was accepted, well i checked the site and regged my own tM , guess what..it say's accepted also , but i aint owning it yet because after you get accepted it will go to the higher grounds of LAW! .

the TM i regged is allready own by another one also, and i am pretty sure i wont get it, as if i do then i will be a rich man.

so i wouldnt get my hopes up just yet, besides i think there is more into it than thoose os3.5 copy's that you are mentioning.

anyway there is allready AMIGA registered in europe , did u even bother to check that out?,
yes u are right it aint aMIGA.INC nor aT , do a browse and i guess you would be suprised.

tales and fables..huff i dont need this i need an AMIGA and the feeling of an alive market , neither a1 or pegasos have done that yet..even if one of em has a Beta version which is called V1.3 and the other one aint for the public masses yet (os4).

cheers

[MayhemMaybe]

takemehomegrandma wrote:
If someone would like to contact that "holder" (to discuss cooperation for instance), where would you advice them to go?  :-o   :-P

Dat aint my problem, is it?  :-D

[CodeSmith]

@TMHGM:
Sorry, that's not how I operate.  I simply followed the link, and when I saw the lawyer's contact info the first thing that came to mind was the auction house, as you mentioned.  If you look at my posts, I have a few times already asked people not to bug "outsiders" who have no idea of our little games.  As I said, as long as I'm running the Frieden's OS I don't give a rat's ass as to who the current owners of the trademarks are (it's not like it's not been owned by everyone and his dog anyway).

I repeat: if anyone construed my comment as a veiled invitation to bug these people, DON'T.  I am not Machiavelli, if I wanted to organize a protest I'd just ask for it.

[HMetal]

Darth_X wrote:
Well, when AmigaInc made other challenges, there wasn't much action.

I guess we'll find out soon enough, won't we? :-)

By the way, did you get a chance to pick up some stuff at the AmigaInc auction? :-D

I wasn't interested in the "used" equipment at the auction.  I have all the computer and networking equipment I need, and backup equipment if any of it fails.  And the best part of it is Amiga didn't supply any of it.  It's all mine no matter what happens. No worries here.

This is what happens when you plan to stick with it for the long haul and cover your bases before the mud starts flying.  :-)

[Warface]

HMetal wrote:

Darth_X wrote:
Well, when AmigaInc made other challenges, there wasn't much action.

I guess we'll find out soon enough, won't we? :-)

The problem is: we always have to find it out ourselves. Like with your "used equipment" suggestion.

[HMetal]

Warface wrote:
The problem is: we always have to find it out ourselves. Like with your "used equipment" suggestion.

I guess when you attended the auction, you found out that it really was used equipment, right?  Hey, if you didn't believe me, that's your problem.  :lol:

[AmiGR]

I guess we'll find out soon enough, won't we?
--

Sure! Just keep in mind that if you find the money
for the lawsuit, you'll have to add at least 30,000$
to the money you'll need... or you'll have a NICE
surprise from Bolton.

BTW, McEwen's crap do not work with us anymore...
01/09/2002, my ass...

[Darth_X]

HMetal wrote:

I guess we'll find out soon enough, won't we? :-)

This is what happens when you plan to stick with it for the long haul and cover your bases before the mud starts flying.  :-)

Don't you just love this Canadian humour? :pint:

ENCORE!!! ENCORE!!!

[bbrv]

Re: Trademarks, lawsuits, Bolton, etc.

Not sure any mud will be flying around much longer, as we will crank up the lawsuit again next week against Amiga Inc.  Of course, Amiga Inc. can install DE on the Pegasos and then we can just call it a day, but that is not likely as there does not seem to be anything left.

We have ask Bolton to coordinate and manage the port/relationship from our side.  He has agreed, so it looks like if all goes well he will have a job in the Community again soon.

Sadly, there continues to be alot of FUD floating around, but all this should be cleared up at AmiWest when some of the traditional Amiga Community discovers that they nice folks from Genesi are not the six headed dragons they are often made out to be.  

It is time to shut the book on the past and move ahead.

Happy days are here again...

:-)

Raquel and Bill  :-)

[Hooligan_DCS]

@Bill

>but that is not likely as there does not seem to be anything left.

Care to elaborate?

Mikko

[L8-X]

@bbrv

Yeah shame is a lot of that FUD is generated by you and your supporters.