A valid reason to buy Vista...

[Karlos]

Now that's what I call attention to detail :lol:

[CannonFodder]

So that explains the delays to OS4.

Hyperion are busy porting this engine to run on Radeon 9200 based 800Mhz PPC's. ;-)

[bloodline]

I'm sure some company will build a rival engine using OpenGL 2.0... well you have to be optimistic...

[bloodline]

Just look at the dev tools (near the end of the video).. one could easily build a complete game in weeks...

[FluffyMcDeath]

Karlos wrote:
The engine is up for lisencing now, according to the vid. I would expect a lot of game production companies will by lining  up to lisence it.

And hopefully porting it to an operating system that people are willing to buy. For e.g. Dell has gone back to shipping XP due to demand.

[bloodline]

Looks like you don't need Windows MEII (Vista) after all...

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39095

I rather like the part about running DX10 games in MacOSX on x86 systems... that's what I like to hear ;-)

-EDIT- note that "The Inquirer", now refer to Windows Vista as Windows MEII (pronounced M.E.2)... I would appreciate an effort to refer to it as such on all amiga Fora :-)

[stopthegop]

A valid reason to buy Vista?  

Dementia

[NoFastMem]

Oh XP, I used to treat it with such disdain. Much to their own detriment, Microsoft managed to hone XP into a relatively usable and stable OS in the five intervening years. Oops.

[bloodline]

NoFastMem wrote:
Oh XP, I used to treat it with such disdain. Much to their own detriment, Microsoft managed to hone XP into a relatively usable and stable OS in the five intervening years. Oops.

Exactly, I realised many years ago, that it was in M$'s interest to make sure that their operating systems were flawed... that way they could ensure that users would upgrade. The Windows 9x systems were perfect for this business model... but after the joke that was WinME1... M$ had no choice but move the consumer over to the more stable NT platform... introducing WinXP... now users would experience a system that lacked the design flaws of the 9x systems and would therefore function effectively for the task which it was designed.

Strike one against the old business model!

Then Longhorn was delayed... now users grew comfortable with the XP platform... and being actually quite a well designed system it behaves predictably and thus can be relied upon. The delays meant that M$ had no choice but to update XP and keep it useable!

Strike two against the old business model!

Now MEII (Vista) has been released... it break compatiblity with existing software and hardware (much like Windows 2K did, when released... but that hadd a year or so in the wild to allow it to gain support, before it was released to the consumer as XP)... and it lacks any real features that users need, not to mention that all "new" features have been present in *NIXes and MacOS X for years...

No user wants MEII... The OEMs would prefer to phase it in over time... but that is totally against M$ business models...

[Vincent]

stopthegop wrote:

A valid reason to buy Vista?  

Dementia

:lol:

@tpg
I'm the same.  I used 2k for years and it was great, used XP once or twice with no luck at all.

Eventually after all the hotfixes and SPs I decided to give it another go and what a surprise I got - it was actually useable on a daily basis!

I've got a feeling Vista'll be the same.

[iMiga]

I personally like WinXP, certainly my favourite of the Windows operating systems, and I pretty much think they 'cracked it' with XP Professional (however I still like Madriva because it's different )

Bloodline has a good point about the Microsoft business models. Vista is not a good option now, but may be in 2 or so years time once the teething problems have been ironed out.

My recipe for stable computer and internet life at very low cost, or no cost :
Windows XP
Spybot
Ad-Aware
AVG Free

Oh, and hello  :-D

[Van_M]

If wonder if the recommended specs on crysis will be enough. Most of the times you have to add another 30% to the venders recommnded specs in order to enjoy the game with advanced graphics settings and such.

[NoFastMem]

iMiga wrote:
My recipe for stable computer and internet life at very low cost, or no cost :
Windows XP
Spybot
Ad-Aware
AVG Free

Add a Core 2 Duo to that list and you're golden.

Oh, and hello  :-D

Hi! :-)

[NoFastMem]

Van_M wrote:
If wonder if the recommended specs on crysis will be enough. Most of the times you have to add another 30% to the venders recommnded specs in order to enjoy the game with advanced graphics settings and such.

Mmm, I wonder if, in a case like this where the advances in realism of the engine are really being pushed, high recommended specs are touted to emphasise the complexity of the software.