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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 16, 2007, 04:20:50 PM »
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2007, 04:36:32 PM »
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It's a silly question. Why would you accelerate any computer? To make it faster. So that applications, emulators etc. run faster and more smoothly.

It's like saying "Why accelerate an IBM-PC" or "Why accelerate a Macintosh".


Ok, here is a less silly question. "Why accelerate an Amiga if you aren't running any software that will take advantage of it, and you could use the money for something else?"

My question was directed to what people are using the accelleration for, and to determine if I will ever need it. I don't render, I don't compile, it seems stupid to run a degrader just to get games to be compatible. I wanted to determine if there is any justification for speeding up my Amiga, and for what I do with it, I don't think so.

It's not like trying to run Oblivion on a PC, where I need to splurge for a $250 video card and need a 3Ghz processor. As I said in a pervious post, I'm running stuff from the 1990's, like Deluxe Galaga.
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2007, 05:10:45 PM »
>Ok, here is a less silly question. "Why accelerate an Amiga if you aren't running any software that will take advantage of it, and you could use the money for something else?"

Well, you've basically answered your own question then. If you are just running ancient games on it then it is indeed rather pointless. I would have expected 3D games like Interceptor to become smoother when used on an accelerator but that doesn't seem to be the case (poorly coded?).
 

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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2007, 06:02:44 PM »
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As I said in a pervious post, I'm running stuff from the 1990's, like Deluxe Galaga.


Hmm, Deluxe Galaga runs a lot smoother on an '030 or '040...  ;-)
 

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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2007, 07:14:36 PM »
Actually I've noticed that many of the WHDLoad games don't seem to slow down properly, they have to be run at A500 speed.  Bomb Jack and Vixen spring immediately to mind. I will make a list if anyone is interested.

I might also go through the 3D games to try to find any that are actually smoother, as opposed to just faster, on an accelerator.
 

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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2007, 08:44:41 PM »
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If you don't need the extra speed, that is required for ex. for 3d rendering, then you don't need an accelerator. And the money you save..you could put to better use.
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2007, 11:22:43 AM »
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Or in the case of games like Red Baron which in my view was just too slow to be playable in the first place, they have actually brought it to life. :)


Absolutely! I'm especially looking forward to a whdload version of Wing commander! :-)

 


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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2007, 12:46:24 AM »
Why do people put protoxide to boost their car?
Bcoz they fly,bcoz it's fun,bcoz it's passion!
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2007, 12:44:19 PM »
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Why do people put protoxide to boost their car?
Bcoz they fly,bcoz it's fun,bcoz it's passion!


WRONG! They do it because it makes the car faster which does something useful (get from point a to point b faster or lightens the wallet from speeding tickets).

If I speed up my Amiga and I have to "unspeed" it everytime I want to play a game, that seems like a waste of $$$$.

I already have the Accelerator (a CSA Derringer 50 w/ 32MB RAM), I'm just trying to decide if it will be of any use to me.
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2007, 12:45:09 PM »
It's very much a case of deminishing returns with the Amiga, the more you upgrade, the less compatible with the majority of (A500-games) software you become.

Why put an FPU in an Amiga, is another "funny" question?  

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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2007, 12:47:22 PM »
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It's very much a case of deminishing returns with the Amiga, the more you upgrade, the less compatible with the majority of (A500-games) software you become.

Why put an FPU in an Amiga, is another "funny" question?  

:-P


Exactly.

I'm just trying to figure out if there is any software that I might want to use someday that could take advantage of the accelerator.
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2007, 01:41:21 PM »
>If I speed up my Amiga and I have to "unspeed" it everytime I want to play a game, that seems like a waste of $$$$.

Yeah, it's funny how the WHDLoad patches say "this slave has been tested with an 060" etc...didn't they notice the game was running at 10x normal speed?
 

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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2007, 01:44:10 PM »
What game are you experiencing this with ? Whdload is really cool, I use it for years (on 060/040)..

It really is cool software, making it compatible, and quittable (very important).
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2007, 01:48:51 PM »
Many of them. Bomb Jack and Vixen spring to mind, but there are others too. Maybe I'm using old slaves or something.

I agree WHDLoad is great overall, I even registered it...
 

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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2007, 02:52:10 PM »
 I have a 40mhz A1200 with 32mb fastmram.
Looking for an accelerator to be able to work on sequences of animation  in higher resolution, but I don't find anything available for the non tower models.
  Any suggestions for upgrading the 1200 to operate in higher  resolutions?...
 

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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2007, 05:36:45 PM »
not all of us play games.  I do 3d and video work with my amigas.  I need at least a 060 cpu otherwise the thing is just flat out to slow.
nothing wrogn with a standard amiga for gaming.
in the ned it's exactly the same reason you want to speed you your PeeCee, with computers faster is usualy better.