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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #134 from previous page: June 05, 2003, 12:43:11 PM »
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I saw he was offering it to Wayne. THAT is something you can all be nervous about :)


Nah.. He offered it to AROS first... and I have the proof :-D

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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #135 on: June 05, 2003, 12:48:27 PM »
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This thread is getting long and veering OT, it may go locky locky soon


yeah ur good at doing that aren`t ya?  :-D
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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #136 on: June 05, 2003, 01:08:55 PM »
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redrumloa wrote:
This thread is getting long and veering OT, it may go locky locky soon :-o


FINALLY, the first sensible words in this thread. Well apart from the larch that is :-P.

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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #137 on: June 05, 2003, 01:32:48 PM »
The topic was pretty off in the first place
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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #138 on: June 05, 2003, 01:40:45 PM »
Does the trademark change over relate to the lawsuit mentioned earlier?


NB:  Good luck to Genesi, having the Amiga name would be a great boost.  I wish them luck.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #139 on: June 05, 2003, 02:05:24 PM »
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NB: Good luck to Genesi, having the Amiga name would be a great boost. I wish them luck.


I so hope this doesn`t happen.
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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #140 on: June 05, 2003, 02:41:03 PM »
@zudo

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Ok, my turn.

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And while accusing Wayne, you have to admire his self restraint he presents at times.


Well I don't. He shows very little restraint. Always jumping in to defend bbrv and fuel the flames. I wish he would just let go and say what he feels. Get it out of his system and stfu. Same goes for Buck.

Crap like this isn't doing anyone any good. If it is a joke, it's not funny.

I've now decided the only reason I am sticking around is to see OS4 in action. If any of this does enough damage to delay that anymore, I'm out of here. Screw this.


I've noticed this about Wayne aswell.  He is very quick to anger at A.Inc's news/fud whatever, but when it coems to BBRV he's got a completely different tune.

We all know that he hates A.Inc and likes BBRV, but why all the bashing?  Blomberg said it best:

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**LICK**


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It would be hilarious if BBRV actually are successful in the application, since he could wipe Amiga Inc. out if he wanted to.


Wrong.  Amiga Inc is a registered company.  They have the rights to the Amiga Inc name.  If BBRV get the rights to the Amiga trademark, there's nothing they can do about Amiga Inc.  They would *both* be allowed to use the name.

Anyways, as someone pointed out, Amiga is still a registered trademark in Europe.  Which means that A.Inc can keep the name here.

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If amiga inc die and Wayne does end up with the trademark (not that I believe any of this crap) then he should just sell it to those Spanish lesbians and use the money to start a new site like genesi.org or welovebbrv.org (bad joke... all the rage.)


:lol:  Unfortunately, I agree with you. :-(

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This thread is getting long and veering OT, it may go locky locky soon   :-o


Hmmm, I can't remember it being on topic since page 1! :lol:

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NB: Good luck to Genesi, having the Amiga name would be a great boost. I wish them luck.


You're having a laugh ain't ya? :-x
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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #141 on: June 05, 2003, 02:43:52 PM »
GHauber a newbie?!

 :-D  :-D  :-D

Wayne, you're really losing it this time!
Here's a clue... http://www.gabrielhauber.com/

 :-o

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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #142 on: June 05, 2003, 02:47:08 PM »
Just where exactly can I find these spanish lesbians :-P .
 

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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #143 on: June 05, 2003, 02:51:52 PM »
{RANT ON}
What I find "unacceptable" is that some people here ACTIVELY refuse to differentiate the fact that Anti-Amiga Inc does NOT automatically equal pro-Genesi.  

Up front and out in the open, it's true.  There is not a single, solitary member of Amiga Inc's management that I have met personally that I either like, or would trust to return 50 cents.  Unlike most of you -- except those out $150 for the pack and the t-shirt/coupon scandal -- I have EARNED my position wherein Amiga Inc's management is concerned.

Amiga Inc have repeatedly threatened me and this site.

When Amiga Inc hosted Amiga.org on their server, it was repeatedly turned off -- almost on a monthly basis -- for lack of payment (the aforementioned "bulldozer incidents" -- yes, I lied about those when  I was an Amiga Inc cheerleader).  This in itself was a big factor in our most recent move to our own servers.

Amiga Inc has consistently taken money from this community with promises and zero in return except for a volunteer written newsletter.  (The difference is, we at Amiga.org wouldn't charge you $50 per year for a simplistic club newsletter).

Amiga Inc, and it's contractors have repeatedly lied about every single situation they are in, from T-shirts to trademarks, from evictions to auctions.

Amiga Inc have continually ignored the Amiga community which has created EXACTLY this type situation where everyone has gotten exceptionally touchy and pedantic about every little word (this post too will be picked apart by the likes of DaveP and others with their own agenda imposed).

Now, let's look at the "other side".

BBRV is abrasive and very blunt.  He can at times be his worst enemy.   99.99% of all problems that some of you have with Genesi are caused by your dislike of BBRV's tactics and mannerisms.  

You seem to have forgotten that Bill McEwen is, and has been in the past, the exact same way wherein public statements are concerned.  (It's been almost a year since McEwen has even said one single word publicly, so I'll grant that most of you have probably forgotten this fact).

(Those of you who judge Genesi on the personality of Bill Buck are not bloody likely to buy any system in any event.)

Genesi has two working Amiga related products

Genesi has a shipping product which came delayed, but as promised.  (Yes, some resellers still have a few in stock, so it is still technically available).

Pegasos 2 is on the way and I personally have ZERO reason to doubt it's creation or arrival based on the fact that the Pegasos I and MorphOS actually exists.

That does not make me a Genesi cheerleader by any stretch of imagination.  Aside from my rant on BBRV's bluntness, these are facts.  Amiga Inc has zero shipping available products (AmigaOne == Eyetech), Genesi has two, both of which are very, very cool.

Let's get something straight here.  The subject of my "agenda".  I am not here to sink Amiga Inc, nor am I here to praise Genesi, AROS, Amiga Forever, or any other specific alternative to the Amiga.  I am here trying desperately to save what is left of the Amiga community despite what I clearly see as the best efforts of Amiga Inc to destroy it.  Unlike some of you here (mostly the AI cheerleaders) I refuse to view the Amiga community in terms of black and white (or in this case Red or Blue) and that pisses some of you off.  Can't help you there.

The Amiga community to me has several options available to it, from the AmigaOne/Linux platform, to the Pegasos/MorphOS platform, to emulators, to AROS, to any single thing that YOU feel is an alterative to the Classic Amiga.

I don't really care if a single person on this site likes my interpretation of "Amiga community" or not.  I personally don't feel that Amiga Inc BOUGHT this community when they licensed the trademarks, and they damned sure have not done a single thing to earn our respect or support.  That's just my opinion.

As I said however, I'm not here to kill Amiga Inc.  They're doing that just fine without my help....   All I'm doing is running the projector, displaying all the facts that I can find on the big screen so that the audience can make up their own minds.  The truth for some of you is very difficult to swallow.

By the way, the pictures of all that "second hand furniture and partitions -- (Quote `Fleecy` Moss)" are available on the auction site.  

I guess we were lying about that too huh?

- Amiga Inc has no known employees (non-paid people are called `Volunteers`)
- Amiga Inc has no known offices. (I personally want the foosball table)
- Amiga Inc has no legal trademarks (just to stay on topic)
- Amiga Inc has only one shipping product (Microsoft Game pack), and whether it's "Amiga related" is extraordinarily debatable.  Remember folks, neither the AmigaOne or AmigaOS is an Amiga Inc product.
- Amiga Inc has taken yearly "dues" for what they now claim (after taking the money) was for a newsletter, and they have yet to even deliver the aforepromised t-shirts.

What I can't understand is why everyone is so enamored with a group of amateur manager-type-wannabes who cannot even manage the trademark procedure to their own IP.  These are the people you feel are able to deliver a working computer platform?

That makes Amiga Inc what?  A user group?
 

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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #144 on: June 05, 2003, 02:58:05 PM »
@Wayne, about the Amiga Inc hosting Amiga.org business...

Is it not true that you offered to sell the site to Amiga Inc for a large amount of cash, but they declined?

(No flame, just a question! :-))

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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #145 on: June 05, 2003, 03:00:59 PM »
@Ian,

It has never been a secret that I have offered to sell this site to a number of Amiga related companies or to anyone who is willing to meet my price.  That offer is no longer available.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #146 on: June 05, 2003, 03:01:11 PM »
@Amimonkey

From the ruesume:
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Operating systems/environments:
Windows XP, NT4, 98, 95, AmigaOS 1.3, 2.0, 3.0, AmigaDE/Amiga Anywhere, TAO Intent JTE,
Red Hat Linux 6.2 & 7.0, Mandrake Linux 8.1, SunOS

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J2SE (2 ½ years), J2ME/MIDP (6 months), XML (2 ½ years), SGML (18 months), Omnimark
(18 months),Korne shell script (18 months), RPG/400 (6 months), C, Virtual Processor
assembly, Bash shell script, Modula 2, Pascal, Prolog, Ada, AMOS Basic

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Jakarta-Ant, Jakarta-Tomcat, JUnit, HttpUnit, Apache, jEdit, MS Office 2000, MSSQL 6.5, 7.0,
Oracle DB 8, The Gimp, CVS, ArgoUML, CodeGuide 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, Open Office


A newbie indeed :lol:

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You seem to have forgotten that Bill McEwen is, and has been in the past, the exact same way wherein public statements are concerned.


I don't remember Bill or any A.Inc person personally attacking Amiga customers without provocation, something that BB has done a few times in the past.

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(Those of you who judge Genesi on the personality of Bill Buck are not bloody likely to buy any system in any event.)


I must be in the minority, I'm still on the fence.  If I see something I like from Genesi, then I will buy it.  I didn't like Escom, but I still bought an Amiga from them.

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Is it not true that you offered to sell the site to Amiga Inc for a large amount of cash, but they declined?


Nah, are you sure it wasn't Genesi? :-P (joke!)
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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #147 on: June 05, 2003, 03:05:51 PM »
@Wayne

Way to misread what I said. This has NOTHING to do with being pro-genesi or pro-Amiga Inc it has to do with you putting down this guy just because he has a difference of opinion with you WHEN you berate others for doing the same.

But yeah, course, I got an agenda. Right.  :-o
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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #148 on: June 05, 2003, 03:09:46 PM »
@DaveP

Never claimed to be perfect.  Can you?  If I've misunderstood, I apologize but we are all very touchy.
 

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Re: Amiga Inc lost the trademark to "Amiga" on January 3rd, 2003
« Reply #149 on: June 05, 2003, 03:10:19 PM »
@Wayne

You have to understand that from my point of view, I do not know the management of Amiga Inc, nor do I know you, so I cannot decide whether you are justified in the constant animosity towards them.

However, you have said the Amiga Inc have put you through hell for* YEARS* - was this before or after you offered to sell them the site?

Ian :-)