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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #59 from previous page: June 02, 2003, 08:19:39 AM »
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There's plenty of software out there that appears to be system friendly and some of it varies on just how system friendly it is.

Of course.

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The CIA's aren't there and as such neither are the resources.

Can they create a virtual device emulator (e.g. nallepuh) ?

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There is no audio device redirector either.

What about nallepuh?

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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #60 on: June 02, 2003, 08:26:06 AM »
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"Very compatible and stable" doesn't quite jive with OSnew’s reviews regarding Pegasos and MorphOS (i.e. Eugenia Loli-Queru’s review(2003-05-19)?


Eugenia expected  memory protection. Stability for the time being is similar to an Amiga system, not a recent, memory protected Operating System with applications made with memory protection in mind.
 

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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #61 on: June 02, 2003, 08:45:34 AM »
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Eugenia expected  memory protection.

That’s one issue…

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Stability for the time being is similar to an Amiga system,

Not without the missing devices and services. Virtual devices could help the overall application compatibility.

Note that I’m not referring to memory protection issues. I’m referring to application compatibility and the stability to run them. Missing services will reduce the overall stability to run legacy applications.
This unknown factor (i.e. will this run or will this not run) doesn’t help MOS’s cause.
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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #62 on: June 02, 2003, 09:07:58 AM »
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MOS has something similar to Birdie/Visual Prefs. Last time I tried, AmiStart failed to work. StackAttack isn't needed.  

That was not the issue. Note that I’m well aware of MOS's 2D GUI texturing/skinning capabilities. The statement was a brief summary of my current AmigaOS 3.9 set-up and patches.

The issue is; Can MOS 1.3 ecosystem replace AmigaOS 3.9 ecosystem?

**AmigaOS 3.9 based set-ups can cover from Amithlon/Berniethlon, WinUAE-JIT and Classic Amiga HW.
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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #63 on: June 02, 2003, 10:36:53 AM »
I have managed to convince my gf that the amiga is the best computer ever, and even made her use and enjoy it (mostly for dpaint and scala). How about that? :-)

It took a little while, though. FIrst I had to talk her into buying an ibook instead of a pc laptop and then we went from there.

Oh, did I mention that I now have an ibook? :P

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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #64 on: June 02, 2003, 10:49:48 AM »
Nahlepuh and stuff like it are mostly MMU hacks.
Such MMU hacks are not even considered, as they
will slow down everything significantly. Every poke
to Paula would produce MMU exceptions that would
have to be handled with multitasking disabled.
Such stuff have no place in a clean OS.
The goal with both solutions is not only to produce a
compatible and extended OS but to clean it up as well.
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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #65 on: June 02, 2003, 11:01:13 AM »
I am biased, as most must know by now.

I bought my A2000 in 1989. I still use it today.

I will buy an A1 by Oct. 2003.

I expect it'll last till at least 2016, how could that be wrong??

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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #66 on: June 02, 2003, 11:36:38 AM »
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I am biased, as most must know by now.


There is very few unbiased out there (if any :-)). This way or the other, everyone is biased - or just ignorant. :-)
 

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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #67 on: June 02, 2003, 01:39:52 PM »
Hi, isn't this a silly discussion?

Each effort will go its own way.  Best wishes to all.

Take it easy...;-)

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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #68 on: June 02, 2003, 01:48:34 PM »
@bbrv

Please tell us why its a silly discussion?

The subject is quite interesting to a lot of people ( although it should say Amiga-derived OS ) and the discussion within has been far from silly and has been the most productive we have seen for a long time.

( which probably sayes more for the quality of debate we usually get )
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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #69 on: June 02, 2003, 02:18:29 PM »

OK, Dave, fair enough.  Have fun.  We just think "dominant" is the wrong word.  

We did not read the thread.  If you think the discussion was that useful we will try to catch-up and read it later.

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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #70 on: June 02, 2003, 02:18:46 PM »
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DaveP wrote:
@bbrv

Please tell us why its a silly discussion?

The subject is quite interesting to a lot of people ( although it should say Amiga-derived OS ) and the discussion within has been far from silly and has been the most productive we have seen for a long time.

( which probably sayes more for the quality of debate we usually get )


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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #71 on: June 02, 2003, 02:31:03 PM »
@DaveP

I have to admit, I love DaveP-s bunny. Being teethy, but his devotion is something I must admire. Hope I cleared up most issues in my PM. And once more - it was just an opinion. (as I stated so in the last line) :-)

I'd love to hear your opinion on the subject however. I bet it will be detailed and interesting.
 

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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #72 on: June 02, 2003, 02:42:36 PM »
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I have to admit, I love DaveP-s bunny.


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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #73 on: June 02, 2003, 03:32:34 PM »
It's silly for one reason... The one who dominates the
Amiga market is NOT the winner. Every team will start
targeting other markets, thus following other paths.
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Re: Dominant future AmigaOS? MOS vs OS4 vs AROS
« Reply #74 on: June 02, 2003, 04:25:30 PM »
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AmiGR wrote:
It's silly for one reason... The one who dominates the
Amiga market is NOT the winner. Every team will start
targeting other markets, thus following other paths.


Hahahaha, I like that: "The one that gets the Amiga Market is not the winner", talk about cussing the Amiga community :-D

A better Topic is: "Which Clone is the most interesting and/or has the most interesting future..."