Amiga.org Vs Amigaworld.net........Give us your views!

[Colin_Camper]

Lets try not to stir the sh1t between sites eh RomanceClip.

O.K. I should have added the caveat IMHO - but this illustrates what I meant.

I was criticising people for leaving Amigaworld.Net to form Amigans.net and their reasons for doing it. I am entitled to do this on some sites but not others. If you disagree with me then that's fine! How is that stirring sh1t?  :-)

There is a thread, currently on Amigaworld;
"OS4 or MOS, that is the question... "
Let me know when you are allowed to discuss such issues over at Amigans and I will take the site slightly more seriously.

btw - If the community was 5x bigger I would say Good luck to the Amigans - but as it stands I hope it withers and people come back to Amigaworld and Amiga.org.  :-)

[Lando]

I generally only visit aw.net if directed there by a link in a news story here or on ann (although ann is pretty much dead  itself since registration became compulsory).

I disliked aw.net for claiming to be an Amiga community site while discriminating against the large sections of the Amiga community who are MOS or AROS users. I have no such problem with amigans.net, since they make no claim to cater for the Amiga community, but only for OS4 users, and they state this in their terms which is fine by me and I wish them luck.

From what I understand, aw.net has improved dramatically since the departure of certain moderators but I still have no great desire to become a regular visitor there.  In the old days it was impossible to have a discussion on the merits of the respective alternatives because as soon as you mentioned anything such as MOS's faster 68k JIT or suggesting that perhaps the Pegasos II was a better piece of hardware than the AmigaOne you'd have a dozen abuse reports and a torrent of abuse calling for you to be burned as a heretic.  This led to a higher level of technical naivete because it is impossible to have a discussion of the technical merits of one system without reference to others.

[Lando]

Akiko wrote:
@Paradox

"aw.net is not a true amigans website if a fellow amigan cant put across his views without harrasment or flamewars or even a ban!"

So basically what your saying is aw.net wont tolerate trolling but you believe it's some how more acceptable or atleast a blind eye is turned here.

He said 'put across his views'.  He never mentioned trolling.    You seem to have the classic aw.net mentality that anyone putting across his views is trolling if those views don't happen to be the same as your own.  It's just this kind of mentality which made aw.net a laughing stock.

A troll is someone who writes something provocative which he doesn't necessarily believe purely to provoke a strong reaction in others for his own entertainment.

A person who has a different opinion than your own is not a troll, he's just another human being who doesn't agree with you.  

[ltstanfo]

Colin_Camper wrote:

btw - If the community was 5x bigger I would say Good luck to the Amigans - but as it stands I hope it withers and people come back to Amigaworld and Amiga.org.  :-)

I think people are loosing sight of the real issue here.  We as a community cannot afford any "wither" in our group.  The community is already so small I am amazed that spin-offs continue to occur.  What we need to do (IMO) is to learn to get along.  IF you want a Red only or Blue only or OS4 only site, that is fine but don't beat someone else up (or ban) for not agreeing with you 100%.  Now, if they are trolling or deliberatly baiting, let a moderator know... don't play their game.  All websites have posted rules and if they are broken, let the moderators handle it.  Every time there is a spin-off, the community as a whole is diminished.

Regards,
Ltstanfo

[Piru]

@Paradox

In my opinion amigaworld.net made the right decision in kicking you out.

[Boot_WB]

Unfortunately here is a classic example of how a couple of AW.net posters can ruin any discussion in the forums.

Admittedly the OP could be trying to stir things up - or could have a reputation for doing so - but the discussion could easily have taken place in a mature and RESPECTFUL manner.

What this community often lacks imho is
1) tolerance and
2) respect for the other persons point of view
and
3) sufficient maturity to not rise to the (real or perceived) bait.

A simple fact is that if people visit sites only to troll they will get bored by no response.

[Paradox]

lol @ Piru

chill out m8

that not very nice
 :boohoo:

[Paradox]

respect for fellow amigans

[Piru]

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[19:31] <^Paradox>  ill knock them all out#
[19:31] <^Paradox>  serious
[19:31] <Robert17> Paradox - no need for that
[19:32] <^Paradox>  trust me
[19:32] <^Paradox>  im going to spark on of them out
[19:32] <ED-209> they do tend to freeze you out a bit it must be said
[19:32] <^Paradox>  haha
[19:32] <zerohero> and whom exactly are &quot;they&quot;
[19:32] <zerohero> aw.net staff or what?
[19:32] <Robert17> hehe well, just don't go on AW....
[19:32] <^Paradox>  all of them the muppett think there hard with a computer infront of them there nothing
[19:32] <^Paradox>  i batter them all
[19:33] <Robert17> oh dear.
[19:33] <^Paradox>  haha
[19:33] <Robert17> it's only a hobby mate calm down :p
[19:33] * ED-209 warns #AW of the coming invasion
[19:33] <^Paradox> it not its {bleep}ing annoying
[19:33] <^Paradox>  im goin to get em in some way
[19:33] <Robert17> lol maybe it's time you found a less tedious hobby ?
[19:33] <^Paradox>  cant wait for BB4 or 5 whatever
[19:33] <Robert17> BB4 has been and gone
[19:34] <^Paradox>  im ging to knock one of them out on video
[19:34] <^Paradox>  ive not been doen for that b4
[19:34] <^Paradox>  and put it on the internet
[19:34] <^Paradox>  on youtube
[19:34] <Robert17> Paradox - Someone on Amigaworld gave me a lot of help with my AmigaONE when I first got it
[19:34] <^Paradox>  yeah
[19:34] <Robert17> was very patient too
[19:34] <^Paradox>  probaly wanted to shag you


That wasn't very nice either. While aw.net isn't perfect, nothing justifies that kind of c**p.

"respect for fellow amigans"

That's a bit thick coming from you.

[Paradox]

piru you are very nasty boy

i can see it in your avatar

please stop im having a nervous breakdown

give a light quick I need weed

get him out of here.

[Paradox]

AW.SUXX

you know it I know it so face it

even though we dont see eye to eye doesnt meen we cant agree on something once in a while like ermm...................amiga rulez

[Tomas]

No wonder why you got kicked with that kind of attitude. My personal feeling is that you wont be around here for much longer either..

[The_Editor]

@ Colin_Camper

indeed you are entitled to your own opinion. I completely respect that. :-)

My comment was meant to warn peeps who a certain person actually was and what his intentions here likely were for.

Looking at piru's IRC capture log you can ascertain your own judgement.

[Boot_WB]

@Piru

Very informative, thankyou.

[The_Editor]

It should also be stated that Red and Blue amigans mix very well at Big Bash events.


You behaved yourself at BB3 Amber Inc and even sold hardware.

IF you decide to attend any further BB events we would expect the same level of professionalism you displayed at bb3.

[Paradox]

cool.


just to let you know im never going to go away so your stuck with me wether you like it or not.

Im not a {bleep} im just honest and people dont like it.

i will try to behave a bit more chilled in the future the was just my grand opening rofl