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Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« on: November 23, 2006, 04:02:38 PM »
Hello,

I saw these (not so expensive) products sold by Trenz Electronics :
Disk-on-module (128 MB - 2 GB)
http://shop.trenz-electronic.de/catalog/default.php?cPath=34
IDE Flash disks (512 MB - 4 GB)
http://shop.trenz-electronic.de/catalog/default.php?cPath=46

What do you think ?

Regards,

Frederic
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2006, 04:10:54 PM »
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What do you think ?

I think you should learn to use the search option. ;-)
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2006, 04:11:00 PM »
I'm sure I saw a picture in the album with one of these installed in an a1200. I don't remember who posted it though ... :( looks really cool, I thought they were more expensive.
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2006, 04:44:49 PM »
@ Piru,

In the picture section, I have seen some compact flash modifications and one first generation flash drive add-on.
Not something like these ones.

You seemed to be sceptical about the product life, I am also. But the 15 MB/s transfer rate, the 0ms seek time and the low power consumption is tempting !

Regards,

Frederic
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2006, 04:51:30 PM »
CF cards are dirt cheap and reliable. you could always buy 3 and occasionally back up to the other two in case of a problem....
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2006, 04:54:01 PM »
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But the 15 MB/s transfer rate

You're not going to get 15 MB/s transfer rate with A1200 IDE.
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2006, 04:59:28 PM »
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You're not going to get 15 MB/s transfer rate with A1200 IDE.

Yes, I know that :(.
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2006, 05:02:42 PM »
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hamtronix wrote:
CF cards are dirt cheap and reliable. you could always buy 3 and occasionally back up to the other two in case of a problem....

You have just reinvented the RAID technique on CF :-D.
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2006, 06:10:25 PM »
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I think you should learn to use the search option. ;-)


There's NOTHING more unfriendly and that makes you not want to not visit a site then when people on a board you've only posted to a couple of times start shouting, "Oh look at the Baron Chatting Noob Stick over there. LOL!"

Something more along the lines of this might not make people feel so stupid,
"Yes, I believe several people on here have tried similar devices.  There are several threads you can search for by going into Forums and looking for the search option."

And if people on the site were 'really' nice they might even link to one or more threads for them.  

Sorry just a pet peave.  If you get tired of the same questions PLEASE just skip the thread or give friendly helpful advice.
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2006, 06:20:35 PM »
@AmigaHeretic

Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the thread. It really helped.
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2006, 06:26:39 PM »
What I'd really like to see would be some storage device based on PCM memory. Fast writing and unlimited write cycles. That'd be something...
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2006, 07:50:11 PM »
@ piru

as much as I enjoy your comments and helpful advise, you can be a bit abrubt with people
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2006, 09:56:18 PM »
Piru,

If you think those were useless posts, your rude posts to search are even more useless.

Maybe in your culture/language it does not come across as rude?  But in English it is that and more.

As AmigaHeretic stated, there are more subtle ways to say what you said.  :)
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2006, 11:22:42 PM »
I did a couple of these.

http://alan2.rateliff.us/a1200flash
http://alan2.rateliff.us/a4000flash

Here's a picture of my A1200 with 4GB CF Flash
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=1547

And here is czarek's CF installation
http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=1640

In the original 1200 "mod" I used a 512MB card.  I've since moved to a 4GB card.  I have also since abandoned the 4000 "mod", mostly due to space issues in the desktop case, but also since my CS MKIII has wide SCSI.
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Re: Did somebody try a flash disk inside an A1200 ?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2006, 01:35:49 AM »
Show some love to Piru, he's a reservoir of technical knowledge. Peel some grapes and I'm sure he will be more conversational.

:laughing:

I have a SimpleTech 1GB flash drive in my A1200's standard IDE slot and whilst it boots fast, uses little power and makes no noise - with SysInfo it reports a mere 1.5MB/S transfer rate. This is pretty crap. The A1200's IDE port is capable of 2MB/S on an '060 system.

I heard that Compact Flash gradually degrades over time. The size becomes less as it 'self repairs' which is probably not a good thing for a permanent hard drive.

I'm surprised by how slow these flash drives are. Trouble is, battery backed SRAM would be extremely dangerous (just a slight disconnect from the power and your whole drive vanishes - this happened to me a lot on a Philips NiNO palm PC).

I don't think I'll be ditching my 3.5MB/S SCSI-2 hard disk (Asynch mode) completely yet, flash drives aren't ideal as a main multimedia drive. Good for quick booting projects, MP3 players or for gaming though.
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