Picasso II Problem - Board Not Attached

[thewalrus]

I have just installed a Picasso II in a A2000. In Picasso96 mode the monitor setting shows but when trying to attach that to the board the drop down menu says no board. In Show Config in Tools, it shows the board no problem. I tried installing a early version (2.4)of the software but it then comes up with the vilintuisup library not being able to be loaded. I think I had this problem with a Picasso IV some years ago but are now unsure how to fix the problem. Can anybody help (A2000 GVP030-40 3.9 software 2091HDD card A2320 Flicker Fixer) :-?  :-?

[Dr_Righteous]

Are you sure you have the .card file in the right place and the monitor file set for it and in the devs/monitors drawer?

[zipper]

Vilintuisup.library has nothing to do with P96, it belongs to old Picasso software, which should be eradicated before P(icasso)96 (from Aminet) is installed.

[thewalrus]

Thanks for your reply! I understand this: I installed Picasso 96 first. When the board did not show in Picasso96 mode I uninstalled it and tried installing the old Picasso II software i.e version 2.4. to see if that would work. It is with this software I get the message on boot up unable to load vilintuisup library. I have tried uninstalling and installing both versions several times.
It goes without saying I removed the monitor files and settings as well as libraries as well when doing this. (I have 3 other machines with Picasso IV's and owned a picasso II years ago. I bought this one to install in a 2000 as it is zerro II only. I wonder if it has something to do with A2000 and the address of the board. Any more suggestions would be appreicated!

[zipper]

Can you see the PII as working on early startup menu? There is nothing to tinker with the board address, it's just for Warp3D. Tried other Zorro slots? How much memory in ZorroII space?

[thewalrus]

Thanks for your reply. It does show working on early startup. I think I tried changing slots but will try that again. What I might also do is try it in a A4000 just to make sure it works in it.

[zipper]

Principally you should be able to test it in A4000 besides another card, PIV for example, if you get PII monitor file to the Devs/Monitors. And you can have settings for several monitors and use them individually. The same settings don't work well for PIV and PII, as where PIV tolerates 135/85 MHz, PII tolerates 85/55 MHz; usually 8bit doesn't overstress PII. I had once PIV, CV64/3D and PII+ working together - a very long list of available screenmodes...

[BR]

Hi, it's been awhile since I conffigured a PicassoII
in an A2000 also, but I seem to remember a jumper
that needed to be set and if this is an A2000 that's
maxed out  on memory, you have to remove 2 megs of
ram so the board can have an area to map it's memory
to. Hope this helps.
Bob Reising

[zipper]

Of course just 8 MB ZII space is available but probably the accelerator doesn't use that space. The old Picasso software allows to use segmented mode, where just i/o space is used by PicassoII, but I think it's slower than slow.

[thewalrus]

Thanks for your reply Bob! I tried some time ago to shift the jumper but that did not help. The GVP card does have 8 MB ram and the 2091 SCSI card has 1 meg. It also has a 1mb Mega chip as well. I will try and remove a simm tonight when I am home from work and see if that helps. I really think the problem is something to do with memory mapping or similar however am not a expert in such matters.

[BR]

No problem. It's been awhile but I think the PicassoII
has to be able to map it's 2 megs into the first 8 megs.
It has something to do with the ZII/68000 if I remember
right. I also had to set the jumper for non-segmented
to get it to work right. When I moved it into an A4000
desktop it was no longer an issue (someone correct me
if I'm wrong here) because the A4000/68040 maps memory
differently then the A2000/680XX. I'm no expert either.
I hope you get it working. I had pretty good luck with
mine. I didn't stop using it because it quit working,
I upgraded to a PPC MKIII and CybervisionPPC and
still have the PicassoII just in case. >
Bob Reising

[zipper]

 The GVP card does have 8 MB ram and the 2091 SCSI card has 1 meg.

If that works, the accelerator memory must be in ZorroIII space and PicassoII should work without memory reduction. But Showconfig, Sysinfo or something similar could be used to confirm, where the 8MB of memory is addressed.

[thewalrus]

Got it to work!! Had to remove 4MB of ram and uninstall Picasso 96 (as it still did not see board to attach even after I had taken out the 4mb ram and tried altering jumper on Picasso board for segmented memory)I reinstalled the old version of the software and it worked although Workbench seems a bit flakey with 4 mb ram on OS3.9. Might have to reinstall 3.1. If I take only 2 Mb off the 030 card to leave 6 in total the system still seems to address 8MB. Anyway thanks all for your help. Much appreciated

[keropi]

also, isn't there a prob with the A2000, that sometimes after a reboot it "forgets" some zorro cards???

[BR]

Alright! Glad you got it working. The entire time I used
my Picasso I ran CybergraphX. You might want to give it
a try. Several time's I tried to switch to P96, never
could make the switch sucessfully, eventually gave up and
stuck with CGFX. For me it was more stable, but I may
not have been as patient with it as I should've been
because other people have good luck with it. I'm not
sure if you can still register it (for a long time they
had a web site for this) but am pretty sure you can
still purchase it through dealers. Every version worked
better then the software that came with my PicassoII.
Bob Reising