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Offline bertambala

X-Arcade on Amiga?
« on: July 29, 2006, 09:51:57 PM »
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if it would be possible to get the X-Arcade (X-Aracde Two Player) to work with the Amiga.  It operates as a PC keyboard sending the signal through a cable ending with a male DB-9 connector, and from there is connected to a USB converter for use with my Mac.  I know they sell separate adaptors to use this controller with the XBox, PS2, and Gamecube, but I thought it would be rather nice to use it with my miggy.

Any ideas on how I could build a convertor box to use this for two player games?  Getting two buttons per person functionality would be great, though I'd even settle for one.  Thanks in advance!
 

Offline adolescent

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2006, 09:55:44 PM »
You could probably wire up the x-arcade directly to the joystick ports.  For more two buttons you could use the Genesis layout, or if you want more use the CD32 schematics to build an adapter.
Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

Offline bertambala

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2006, 09:05:25 PM »
Hi adolescent,

Thanks for the reply.  I found some info regarding the CD32 schematics, but haven't found anything regarding the Genesis layout yet - is that something I should find on Aminet?  I appreciate the reply and I'll post back if I ever get it working.
 

Offline adolescent

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2006, 09:44:24 PM »
Typical one button stick (Atari style):

1     Up
2    Down
3    Left
4    Right
5    NC
6    Button1
7    NC
8    Ground
9    NC

Typical two button stick (Sega Master System*):

1     Up
2    Down
3    Left
4    Right
5    NC
6    Button1
7    NC
8    Ground
9    Button2

* On the Genesis/MegaDrive Button1=B, and Button2=C.  On the Genesis, pin 7 is used to select between layouts.  Genesis 6 button pads have an additional chip inside to enable the extra buttons.

The easiest thing to do is directly wire the two button style stick.  This should sufice for a majority of the games.  Building the CD32 circiut is a bit more involved and could be left for later.

Oh, and the real thing to worry about is if the X-Arcade itself is doing anything funny.  (ie. if it already has a multiplexer...)  Do you have a pinout for the X-Arcade connector?
Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

Offline adolescent

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2006, 09:48:12 PM »
Ouch.  Never mind, I just checked the website and this isn't going to be easy.  The X-Arcade shows up as a PS/2 keyboard.  Sorry to get your hopes up, but without re-wiring the X-Arcade itself it's not going to be as simple as I made it sound.
Time to move on.  Bye Amiga.org.  :(
 

Offline lempkee

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2006, 10:07:42 PM »
i have one of theese which i use for MAME and my emu's (uae etc) , works great on my AmigaOne , love it to death :)
Whats up with all the hate!
 

Offline leirbag28

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2006, 03:49:13 AM »
@bertambala

Hey dude.....the solution is SUPER easy!

There is and adaptor that converts a Playstation joypad into an Amiga CD32 pad.......so just get the Playstation adaptor for that X-Arcade joystick........and then buy the adaptor for the Amiga that lets you plug in Playstation Joypads

Whalla!   done!

do a search on this site...its somewhere here.

CD32 is actually the best Amiga ever made by Commodore!...
 

Offline mahen

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2007, 04:06:22 PM »
leirbag28 : you mean, the one that is plugged to the parallel port ? It's practically useless, as most games don't use the lowlevel.library...

I'm also looking for a solution to build an X-Arcade -> Amiga adapter :)
 

Offline mahen

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2008, 04:13:41 PM »
Any progress in building an X-Arcade -> Amiga adapter ? :)
 

Offline mahen

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2008, 05:05:06 PM »
Maybe this PSX -> Megadrive adapter could help (used along with the PSX X-Arcade adapter). But I think some MD gamepads were not compatible with the Amiga... (especially the ones with more buttons ?)
 

Offline Nlandas

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2008, 06:21:36 PM »
Quote

bertambala wrote:
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if it would be possible to get the X-Arcade (X-Aracde Two Player) to work with the Amiga.  It operates as a PC keyboard sending the signal through a cable ending with a male DB-9 connector, and from there is connected to a USB converter for use with my Mac.  I know they sell separate adaptors to use this controller with the XBox, PS2, and Gamecube, but I thought it would be rather nice to use it with my miggy.

Any ideas on how I could build a converter box to use this for two player games?  Getting two buttons per person functionality would be great, though I'd even settle for one.  Thanks in advance!

I might be oversimplifying but it says it doesn't require drivers for most OSs because it works as a standard keyboard. Since it has an adapter to go USB, wouldn't a USB card for your Amiga allow you to use it as a keyboard. The last I looked most standard USB keyboards were supported.

It's worth a try anyway. Of course, you need an Amiga USB card and a $200USD tankstick to try it out.

If it works, let me know, I'll be buying a tankstick this year for my Retro-Arcade project.

-Nyle :-D
I think, Therefore - Amiga....
 

Offline mahen

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2008, 06:34:47 PM »
Of course, it probably works out-of-the-box, thanks to the USB adapter, with the Poseidon USB stack (among others)...

But what we are looking for is a way to use it with classic Amiga games, that is to say, direct hardware banging pieces of software. (no USB stack, then ;)

** Maybe ** I found a solution, but it's not sure it'll work, though, but I'll keep you informed in a couple of weeks ;)

http://tototek.com/pio/main1/SUBMENU/PARTS/LINKS/OS/mdclassicconverter.htm
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http://xgaming.com/adapters.shtml
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http://xgaming.com/two-player.shtml
+
Amiga
=
???

What may trigger an issue, is the fact that, in my experience, there were some incompatibilities between the Amiga and 6 buttons MD controllers...

To be continued...
 

Offline Nlandas

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2008, 07:08:01 PM »
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mahen wrote:
Of course, it probably works out-of-the-box, thanks to the USB adapter, with the Poseidon USB stack (among others)...

But what we are looking for is a way to use it with classic Amiga games, that is to say, direct hardware banging pieces of software. (no USB stack, then ;)


Ah, I thought you wanted to use it with MAME - since you just said two players games my brain interpreted that as being with MAME.

For Amiga games I just love the old Atari Joysticks so I've never looked for a controller for that since Amiga uses them directly.

I burn some brain cells on this but I'd imagine it'd need a driver.

-Nyle
I think, Therefore - Amiga....
 

Offline Pertinax

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2008, 10:09:12 PM »
Maybe this (PSX64 in link) could be useful :)

http://freedomirc.net/~megaboz/shredz64/


Jason
 

Offline mahen

Re: X-Arcade on Amiga?
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2008, 10:51:48 AM »
I've just been sent this URL :

http://aminet.net/search?query=PSX+pad

Building this PSX -> CD32 pad adapter would definitely enable us to use the X-Arcade (with the official PSX X-Arcade adapter).

Problem : it requires technical knowledge & some equipment. Anyone willing to build a few ones for us ? :)