the pros and cons of A1 versus PC

[greenboy]

Hey Paul,

Maybe Seehund should describe the concept of VSRs (Value Subtracted Resellers) here.

[Targhan]

Actually, the PC has Amithlon.  While I work for Genesi, I have, use, and enjoy Amithlon.

People sometimes HAVE to go to a PeeCee, that's all there is to it.  We don't live in Utopia.  I'm quite happy with the way Amithlon works, and the speed of it's JIT.

[BADHead]

why buy a system with a really crap os ?
and no support ?  iam not on about the Amiga

[legion]

Actually Kay, by the time you get the CPU on there (especially if your buying Intel) you're going to have more than just $100.  

*I'll* pay the extra $$$.  At least *I'll* own my AmigaOne, unlike the PC, which Bill Gates is positioning himself to do right now, and nobody with any authority will try to stop him.  Bill can have admin/root priviledges on my box when he can pry it from my cold, dead hands.

 :-D

Also, think of it as 3 computers in one.  AmigaOS/linux/Mac-on-linux is a pretty large software base, when you think about it.   Also, the electricity you save over a few years will pay for the extra $$ you spent buying a PPC board.

[The_Editor]

Love your Av, Legion.

Kewl synths as well.

Up there with Sequential circuits.

Paul_Gadd wrote:

The price is not even realistic, over 500 quid is just not acceptable imo for a motherboard and chip in 2003 and i just can not see myself spending that kind of money on just a board.

Be aware that the price of an item is influenced by the scale of manufacture. Compared to a mass produced PC, the AmigaOne is quite small (as well as the Pegasos), and so it's gonna cost more. The Teron board used to cost thousands of US dollars for these reasons. (Even smaller manufactured numbers compared to the AmigaOne).

[alx]

There's only one advantage - the AmigaONE will run OS4 (like the PegasOS lets you run MorphOS).  You've got to buy it based on that, not on the hardware (fairly unexceptional).  Of course, it'l run Linux and probably MacOS - but so will a Mac :-)

It's the same reason why lots of people here have upgraded "classic" Amigas with stupidly expensive PPC expansions, PCI slots etc.

At the end of the day, the people buying A1's and PegasOS's now are basically pioneers - the price will go down, and the power will go up - but only if enough people take the plunge.

[greenboy]

Kinda different beasts; Moog was on the way down when Sequential Circuits really started becoming the predominant USA company. That's about when polyphonics became feasible. Then, when Dave Smith practically invented MIDI, with mild assists from a couple of Japanese megacorps, Sequential again reinvented the market...

...What was the topic again? ; }

[Waccoon]

The AmigaOne is for running old Amiga software faster, and only once OS4 comes out.  The hardware is too rare to attract any developers, so it's a dead end.  As for OS5, well, it's been more than three years since Amiga Inc formed, and still nothing.  Amiga is broke because nobody is interested.  Period.

I still think everyone who bought an AmigaOne before the release of OS4 is out of their minds.  Do you want an Amiga or do you want Linux?

The way all these "alternative" companies operate, it's obvious to me how Microsoft hangs on to its share of the market.

I'm going to be shackled to Windows2000 forever.  Sigh.

[alx]

The AmigaOne is for running old Amiga software faster

And new software

and only once OS4 comes out.

I definitely agree on this at least :-)

The hardware is too rare to attract any developers, so it's a dead end.

Remember that people have to port to an OS, not a computer.  Several years back, the Linux OS had no commercial development and little other development.  Look at it now.

I still think everyone who bought an AmigaOne before the release of OS4 is out of their minds.

You would only want an A1 if you knew the OS you wanted would arrive - ie if you don't want to use it as a Linux box you have to be really confident OS4 will arrive.  If you're not, then there really isn't any point in getting one yet.

[Desolator]

Well, as for myself I'll get the A1 when OS4 has arrived. And why? Because mostly of nostalgia, the second for the FUN. If OS4 is capable of running my old amiga games (in ADF I suppose since we got new diskdrives nowadays..) and applications problemfree as well as new software then I'm happy. Currently I use an AMD 2Ghz computer to run new games on and WinUAE. I use my real A1200's just as often, and the only reason I got an AMD in the first place is to play the new games, like Falcon 4, FS2002, Unreal Tournament and so on... but if I got a computer that was running AmigaOS natively without emulation and that could do the above stated, then speed isn't a necessity. I will still have my PC next to my Amiga, but only for gaming and 3D design. Everything else I would be doing on my Amiga.

Finally, to me fun can not be measured in money. Sure, the A1 is expensive, but it's WORTH it when comparing to using a machine running Windows.

[The_Editor]

Interesting TidBit, Greenboy.

Ty.

[amigamad]

In terms of cost neither a1 or pegasos are worth it both are overpriced and underpowered, but then again they have not got the large userbase of the pc so cost are going to be higher. i have an a1 on order  i also have a pc my 2400xp with 512 meg memory and and 120 gig hd with geoforce ti4200 graphics and soundblaster live + cd writer and dvd drives, did not cost as much as my a1 has. Cost i worked out my a1 when it arives and is put together has cost about £1024 ,a  fair bit higher than my pc .but i still have an a1 because there are things that a pc is just not as good at. Besides i get bored of the pc somtimes and want something else to keep me ocupied. :-?  

+ i can aford it its only money

[Cyberus]

sheesh, use some punctuation!

[Alkemyst]

by Cyberus on 2003/5/4 11:51:16

sheesh, use some punctuation!

Whats that then :-D

[Desmon]

@Bodie

And over $1000 Australian dollars .  :-o

You know, I put together a whole mid-spec PC for less than that (sans OS, but including monitor) this weekend.

There's no way I'm rushing out to buy an AmigaOne anytime soon.