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Offline motorollinTopic starter

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No IDE hack for A1200
« on: April 05, 2006, 08:24:03 PM »
I will shortly be removing all of my IDE devices from my A1200 and installing SCSI replacements. I am therefore faced with a long delay when booting, while Kickstart tries and fails to locate an IDE drive to boot from.

I've seen an A4000 no IDE hack here, and was wondering (a) if anyone has tried it and can vouch for its effectiveness/safeness, and (b) whether it will also work on an A1200.

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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2006, 09:00:39 PM »
Yes, it will work.

The mini IDE connector used on the A1200 is essentially the same thing as the regular A4000 IDE connector, other than the extra 4 pins that the 2.5" hard drives require in order to receive power.

So the guide is valid also for A1200, however you do need an appropriate 44-pin header, obviously.
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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2006, 09:12:40 PM »
No problem finding a connector - I'll just butcher my 2.5" IDE cable once I've got my SCSI drives up and running. Let's hope I can afford the resistors! :lol:

Thanks for the info.

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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2006, 09:25:05 PM »
when you done it tell us the results, i'm interesting for it in the future.
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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2006, 09:34:53 PM »
Will do mate. Amigakit don't have any SCSI hard drives in stock atm so I can't migrate totally to SCSI, but once I have I will try this hack and report back.

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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2006, 10:11:59 PM »
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No problem finding a connector - I'll just butcher my 2.5" IDE cable once I've got my SCSI drives up and running. Let's hope I can afford the resistors! :lol:


You could always make some out of kitchen foil if you're that hard up :hammer:

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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2006, 10:38:38 PM »
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Amigakit don't have any SCSI hard drives in stock atm so I can't migrate totally to SCSI,


So why don't you get your SCSI drive from another store, or for something like 5 EUR on Ebay?
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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2006, 01:42:31 AM »
This might be a prime example of YMMV, but when I migrated to SCSI, leaving the IDE bus completely empty didn't cause any delays at all. Having only a CD drive on it, however, did.

My machine "boots" so quickly that my SCSI hard drive doesn't have time to spin up before the Kickstart screen appears.:crazy:
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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2006, 08:29:22 AM »
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So why don't you get your SCSI drive from another store, or for something like 5 EUR on Ebay?

Because I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing when it comes to SCSI. If I buy from Amigakit I know it will be compatible.

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when I migrated to SCSI, leaving the IDE bus completely empty didn't cause any delays at all. Having only a CD drive on it, however, did

Interesting, was this on an A1200? I'll try it without, and see what happens.

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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2006, 08:49:46 AM »
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motorollin wrote:
No problem finding a connector - I'll just butcher my 2.5" IDE cable once I've got my SCSI drives up and running. Let's hope I can afford the resistors! :lol:


You could always make some out of kitchen foil if you're that hard up :hammer:

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2. Stopping THEM from reading your thoughts.


I dunno - its also good for stopping the garlic bread burning in the oven...
no good as bodywork filler though.
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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2006, 08:51:32 AM »
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Because I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing when it comes to SCSI. If I buy from Amigakit I know it will be compatible.


Yeah, and if you plan to buy a PCMCIA WLAN card, be sure to buy the "Amiga compatible WLAN card" for 25 EUR on Ebay which is 100% identical to an off-the-shelf 3Com card for 5 EUR.


Oh well...  :roll:
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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2006, 08:56:27 AM »
Ok well if you can show me the right drive to buy for 5 quid on eBay then I'll buy it :-)

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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2006, 09:00:04 AM »
As a suggestion, why don't you just search for the model that Amigakit was offering?
Otherwise just look that the interface has the right amount of pins (50, 68 or 80p) and you are fine.
For the other ones, you need an adaptor. That's it basically. No need to look for an "Amiga compatible" harddisk.
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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2006, 09:02:11 AM »
Would this one be ok?

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Oops just noticed it's 80 way. Why is SCSI so complicated?!
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Re: No IDE hack for A1200
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2006, 09:09:37 AM »
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